Why should that be implicit from "too muscular"? I would point out that most of the Olympic level male sprinters (100 & 200 M) are very muscular. I expect he must pass the fitness tests okay, and it is surely better than looking too fat. I am watching him right now in the NU-CHE match and he is moving very well and keeping up with play on counterattacks. Certainly not "running in treacle." Being critical of decision-making when discussing referee quality is OK, but the muscular comment is ridiculous and detracts from your credibility, as does your unhelpful characterization of Daronco. PH
The Spurs fan in me thought that goalkeepers were supposed to be tougher and not get as much of the benefit of the doubt. What changed? /s
3:54. I don’t get it. How do you just blatantly ignore the Laws? If it’s a foul, it’s red. To not give it is bizarre. No VAR intervention?
Both goals in the first 20 minutes of BHA-AVL are talking points. Brighton’s goal in the first couple of minutes looked like a foul against Brighton on the turnover. The Villa penalty in the 19th minute looked like a penalty in real time on my phone, but the replay made it pretty clear to me that the attacker was already going down to buy the call. For me, two wrongs leave everything level after 20 minutes but (once again) doesn’t paint Kavanagh in a positive light at all.
BHA:AVL Harsh penalty. What is the defender to do? The player left his feet well before contact. I have no problem with the ref calling it based on angles, etc. But VAR needs to do its job. It was a dive or collapse actually. He was going down before contact.
I agree with you, I just don’t think there was enough to be clear error on the first. But the second is just lazy.
Agreed that the BHA goal doesn’t meet a reasonable, non-PGMOL overturn threshold. But that one is such an easy foul call to make, especially early in a match. Defensive third, attacker comes through the back. Call that one early, and you have a good match control foul. The penalty is the type of play of play VAR was invented to overturn in theory. That’s a tough call for a referee to make in real time. The AR could provide some help, but he’s 40 yards away and looking at it from behind the defender. VAR had a great angle to see it was going down early at best and a dive at worst. I’m convinced most other competitions will recommend a review there. Yet England/PGMOL once again show why they are bad at VAR.
I think this play is a little tougher than you describe and I’m not sure what the result is elsewhere. Not saying you’re wrong. Just saying I’m a little less certain. The issue is the defender has taken a big risk. He’s gone into a tackle that is trying to stop an OGSO (let’s ignore the fact that no card was given). And he gets nowhere near the ball. And the issue of contact v no contact is measured in milliseconds and centimeters. So it’s really really close. Has the attacker simulated to show a type of contact that wouldn’t otherwise exist? Yes. Would some contact to bring him down been inevitable though? If the attacker just kept running, yes. So I don’t know what the right answer is. It’s a “dive” but it’s not a dive to turn some wondrously fair tackle into a penalty. It’s still a silly and poor tackle. And a risk—which we know is a buzzword in referee instruction. Long way of saying I can see why a VAR says “not enough for me to get involved” that’s more than just this down to being England.
It really is a Catch 22. Do you relieve the defender of the consequences of poor defending or Allow the attacker to get away with cheating. IMO, referees should be more concerned with punishing cheating than poor defending. (it goes in line in a way with the logic behind punishing the more serious offense)
Gillett went back to Australia and refereed Everton - Celtic in the Sydney Super Cup. He was assisted by his EPL colleagues Darren Cann and Richard West. https://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news/match-official-appointments-sydney-super-cup
How close is Welch to the Championship? Look like she's done 17 matches between League Two and League One over the last three seasons with have a dozen being in League One. "Short down the road" and "five years" sounds great but that's a really accelerated timeline for someone who isn't even regularly in League One yet. The Championship will be a hurdle in its own right, by the way. I would argue it will be much tougher to actually referee in than the EPL.
For those who couldn't wait to see who gets the "big" Liverpool/Man City EFL Cup match. Thursday, 22nd December 2022 Manchester City v Liverpool (20:00) DAVID COOTE Nick Hopton and Timothy Wood Fourth Official : Paul Tierney
Some clips of the new SG1 ref for this season, Thomas Bramall, reffing an EFL Cup tie last night: https://streamable.com/sgfnm9 https://streamable.com/nt4u8c https://streamable.com/g4rbt6
Coote showed why he was not selected for the World Cup and based on this game he never should be. Very weak performance. PH
Apparently, Premier League referees made six incorrect VAR interventions so far this season. An independent panel, made up of three former players and one representative for both the Premier League and PGMOL, assesses all key match incidents across a weekend and reports back to clubs on a Thursday indicating where mistakes have been made. The six incorrect VAR interventions are: Crystal Palace 3-1 Aston Villa Penalty conceded (scored on the rebound by Wilfried Zaha) for handball by Lucas Digne, 55th minute Chelsea 2-1 West Ham Maxwel Cornet goal disallowed for a foul in the build-up by Jarrod Bowen on Edouard Mendy, 90th minute Newcastle 0-0 Crystal Palace Tyrick Mitchell own goal ruled out for a foul in the build-up by Joe Willock on Vicente Guaita, 51st minute Man United 3-1 Arsenal Gabriel Martinelli goal disallowed for a foul in the buildup by Martin Odegaard on Christian Eriksen, 12th minute Fulham 3-0 Aston Villa Douglas Luiz sent off for violent conduct against Aleksandar Mitrovic, 61st minute Nottingham Forest 2-2 Brentford Penalty awarded (scored by Bryan Mbeumo) for a foul by Dean Henderson on Yoane Wissa, 44th minute. At six incorrect decisions, I'm not certain we are better off with VAR than we were before it's inplimentation. I am happy to see that "Webb will be visiting all Premier League clubs in the new year to meet key personnel and talk about what is expected from referees, and try to open up a conversation about how things should change and discuss the rationale for decision-making." Link: https://www.espn.com/soccer/manches...r-united-among-6-var-errors-in-premier-league
Keeper in all black, same as referee? Same in Man City-Liverpool match. Is it not a requirement any more to have different colors? PH
I'm entertained that the ex-players are a majority of the review panel. The BBC had a couple of articles on this and related VAR topics. According to the BBC, the review panel actually found six errors for each of two error types: "six incidents were missed completely and on another six occasions, VAR overturned on-field decisions that had initially been right." https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/64057906 In other news, Webb "wants to use his experiences in Major League Soccer and the more open way they deal with VAR to improve the present system." He also seems to be emphasizing the "clear and obvious" as a guiding principle for VAR: "We don't want the VARs to be looking too hard. We want them just to look for those errors that jump off the screen at you." https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/64047311
Matchweek 17 Brentford - Tottenham Referee: David Coote. Assistants: Nick Hopton, Timothy Wood. Fourth official: Gavin Ward. VAR: Stuart Attwell. Assistant VAR: Harry Lennard. Crystal Palace - Fulham Referee: Andy Madley. Assistants: Marc Perry, Steve Meredith. Fourth official: John Busby. VAR: Mike Dean. Assistant VAR: Richard West. Everton - Wolves Referee: Craig Pawson. Assistants: Dan Cook, Dan Robathan. Fourth official: Anthony Taylor. VAR: Andre Marriner. Assistant VAR: Derek Eaton. Leicester - Newcastle Referee: Jarred Gillett. Assistants: Neil Davies, Simon Long. Fourth official: Samuel Barrott. VAR: Peter Bankes. Assistant VAR: Eddie Smart. Southampton - Brighton Referee: Robert Jones. Assistants: Lee Betts, Ian Hussin. Fourth official: Dean Whitestone. VAR: Michael Salisbury. Assistant VAR: Scott Ledger. Aston Villa - Liverpool Referee: Paul Tierney. Assistants: Constantine Hatzidakis, James Mainwaring. Fourth official: Thomas Bramall. VAR: Simon Hooper. Assistant VAR: Wade Smith. Arsenal - West Ham Referee: Michael Oliver. Assistants: Stuart Burt, Simon Bennett. Fourth official: Graham Scott. VAR: Darren England. Assistant VAR: Darren Cann. Chelsea - Bournemouth Referee: Simon Hooper. Assistants: Adrian Holmes, Mark Scholes. Fourth official: Thomas Bramall. VAR: David Coote. Assistant VAR: Constantine Hatzidakis. Man Utd - Nottingham Forest Referee: Anthony Taylor. Assistants: Scott Ledger, Derek Eaton. Fourth official: Jeremy Simpson. VAR: Andy Madley. Assistant VAR: Nick Greenhalgh. Leeds - Man City Referee: Stuart Attwell. Assistants: Harry Lennard, Darren Cann. Fourth official: Michael Salisbury. VAR: Jarred Gillett. Assistant VAR: Marc Perry.