World Cup 2022 and the Battle between Confederations

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Iranian Monitor, Nov 30, 2021.

  1. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    I have zero idea who wins this competition !

    Any out of the last 8 other than Croatia I’d say … Holland and Morocco are real dark horses as well .

    The other five all have an equal chance .. guess it’s gonna come down to a bit of luck judging by Spain hitting the post with the last kick of extra time ..

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  2. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    FIFA Points Ranking after 56 games.
    If 2 points per win and 1 point per draw were given.

    CONMEBOL: 18/4 = 4.50
    UEFA: 51/13 = 3.92
    CAF: 18/5 = 3.60
    AFC: 16/6 = 2.67
    CONCACAF: 9/4 = 2.25
     
  3. waitforit

    waitforit Member+

    Dec 3, 2010
    Valcea
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania

    Hi and congrats man
     
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  4. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Argentina
    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    CONMEBOL still in...

    Semifinals!!
     
  5. waitforit

    waitforit Member+

    Dec 3, 2010
    Valcea
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    #930 waitforit, Dec 10, 2022
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2022
    WOW. Bragging about one team after CONMEBOL had only 2 teams in the R16.

    I have no idea how Brazil and Argentina doing the heavy lifting for CONMEBOL since forever makes the S Americans brag about the depth of this confed.

    With Uruguay in 2010 being the other team besides those 2 reaching a semi after Chile 60 years ago

    The top 2 UEFA countries Italy and Germany are out and UEFA will still have at least 2 semifinalists with an all UEFA final between 2 countries with 0 wins between them being possible

    Ok the chances of that are not that big but what other confed had this possibility in the last world cups.
     
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  6. HomokHarcos

    HomokHarcos Member+

    Jul 2, 2014
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As of today (although that could change if Morocco wins) just Croatia has more semifinal appearances than every non UEFA and CONMEBOL country combined.
     
  7. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Morocco now 11th in the FIFA rankings after the Portugal result.
     
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  8. cabezamagica

    cabezamagica Member

    Feb 10, 2011
    NYC
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Can you exactly tell me where the “bragging “ is in her comments,all I read was “Conmebol still in”?and then a substantial amount of bragging and dismissal of a Confederation in your part.you ok there?
     
  9. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Morocco can reach the final
     
  10. Every Four Years

    May 16, 2015
    Miramar, Florida
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    Uruguay also made the semifinals in 1970. But you have a point.
     
  11. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    What’s the betting that Foden makes an early , careless pass / flick that gives them chance to break on us ..
     
  12. waitforit

    waitforit Member+

    Dec 3, 2010
    Valcea
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    You must not know the person in particular

    Despite UEFA teams winning the last 4 WC CONMEBOL did better according to her logic so saying Argentina reached the semi will mean CONMEBOL did better even if the final is all UEFA
     
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  13. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    The Group F was a group of death. The problem was that all football experts were deaf.:D
     
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  14. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    On a lighter note I had this crazy feeling that Maguire and Stones will both score !!


    Oddly enough I was mocked years ago for claiming that John Stones could be a great Cb :)
     
  15. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    The future of football is that we won't have classical attackers, number 9.
    Everyone will do everything, rotations, creative players will start from CB positions, so that they create attacks.:rolleyes: Such teams will win. LB and RB will be also very important, just like earlier.
     
  16. cabezamagica

    cabezamagica Member

    Feb 10, 2011
    NYC
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    But you have to recognize that the disparity in UEFA and Conmebol,when it comes to federations financial stability and training facilities is staggering,so I wouldn’t be so smug about it.It is why a country like Morocco can compete,most of the roster is playing in top tier leagues like Ligue 1,Italian league,La Liga and some were European born.Top notch resources are an advantage and people need to recognize that.
     
  17. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Argentina
    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I have them all (the conmebol haters, they know who they are) on ignore, but it is always like this. If i dare to say CONMEBOL is also a candidate they start insulting, if i dare to say something good about Argentina or any CBOL country they get xenophobic and talk about some "characteristics" of the southamericans:ninja:

    Also they keep saying UEFA is the only worthy confederation and disrispect the rest. They even badmouthed Messi.

    So yeah, it is always like this here.

    This forum is very UEFA leaning to say the least. Very anti southamericans. We southamericans are used to it but we shouldnt.
     
  18. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    Not to mention attacking midfielders and support strikers, which made the game a joy to watch, have already gone extinct for about a decade now.
     
  19. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    CONMEBOL will always have strong quality. If you observe some teams, they played really bad on this tournament, but Chile, Colombia, Peru stayed at home for example. We can add the quality of Italy also in UEFA who also stayed at home. Some teams qualify thanks to their geographical area.
     
  20. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    If you have a good goalkeeper. Great LB, LM, RB, RM who can repeat the runnings, sprints, center shots and return back, duplicate and solid CM players, you can go very far, even without clear 10 or 9. It's enough to have 4-5-1 that can convert into 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2, 3-5-2,
    4-1-4-1, 4-2-4 (if team has more technical skills).
     
  21. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Congratulations to Morrocco, firstly for making the semi finals of the World Cup, and secondly for being the first African side to reach this stage of the tournament.
     
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  22. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Two European teams, one South American and one African team.
    Solid diversity.
    The final match: France - Croatia again.:whistling:
    Can Morocco do anything against France?
    Can Argentina revenge against Croatia? 3-0 in Russia.
     
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  23. dna77054

    dna77054 Member+

    Jun 28, 2003
    houston
    If another confed got 13 WC slots like Eufa, and Eufa was reduced to 4-5 (like other confeds) the possibility would greatly increase. Does the concept "weight of numbers" mean anything to you?

    As for the depth of the confed, the last time a Conmebol team finished last in its WC group was 2002 (Ecuador with 3 points), since then, by my count, 14 Eufa teams have finished last in their WC group. How does such deep confed like Uefa send so many crap teams to the WC? Here is a hint, part of the answer is weight of numbers.
     
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  24. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    We must mention that over half of Morocco's team was born and developed in Europe.
     
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  25. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    #950 vancity eagle, Dec 11, 2022
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2022
    And what is your point exactly ?

    Do you remind us that Italy naturalized a bunch of Brazilians, or how about Spain, or even Portugal.

    The US has taken players as well. People with little connection.

    Russia and Ukraine have naturalized Brazilians.

    Germany has naturalized Brazilians. They've even stolen a player from Ghana before

    Your own Iran has taken players from Germany and Sweden.

    Don't get me started on your current Asian champs taking players from Africa.

    England and Holland have stolen players from Canada for heavens sake.

    Heck back in the day Poland's main striker was a Nigerian, born and bred in Nigeria.

    Welcome to reality.
     

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