Match 57 (QF): NED : ARG - MATEU LAHOZ (ESP)

Discussion in 'World Cup 2022 - Refereeing' started by balu, Dec 7, 2022.

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What do you think of Mateu Lahoz's performance?

Poll closed Dec 10, 2022.
  1. 1 (worst)

    26.4%
  2. 2

    17.0%
  3. 3

    24.5%
  4. 4

    20.8%
  5. 5

    3.8%
  6. 6

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. 7

    3.8%
  8. 8

    1.9%
  9. 9

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. 10 (best)

    1.9%
  1. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    100% they are going after Lahoz if they lose.
     
  2. TxSooner

    TxSooner Member

    Aug 12, 2011
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I personally want to see a send off in order to hear Dr. Joe try to explain "reduce to equate".
     
  3. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    And it ends 11 v 11 . . .
     
  4. CharlesS

    CharlesS Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    Cambridge, MA
    I'm still having trouble figuring out what the acceptable level of contact is at the moment, so I'm not surprised the players don't have a lot of confidence. Hopefully he can get through the next few minutes without another blowup.
     
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  5. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    In that second overtime, moaning seemed to work. Netherlands total fouls 30, Argentina 18.
     
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  6. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I wonder if this performance affects UEFA assignments going forward. He has not distinguished himself.
     
  7. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    I don’t think it was moaning rather a ref who realizes he’s totally lost and just wants out.
     
  8. AZOldRef

    AZOldRef Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Apr 5, 2021
    Are you really supposed to have two coin flips for KFTM? I was always told to find a reason to pick a side. Then have a toss to decide who kicks first or second.
     
  9. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The law says you need to unless one goal is unsafe in your opinion.
     
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  10. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    No one became a Messi fan today.
     
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  11. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    That changed a few years ago.
     
  12. AZOldRef

    AZOldRef Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Apr 5, 2021
    Never mind, I see LOTG says two coin flips.
     
  13. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    I feel like we're answering this question every time now.
     
  14. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And, who would have?

    The answer is no. Except, perhaps, him being kept away from a certain player/club if there's a particularly ugly scene at the end. But let's not go overboard here. He's been dealt a largely impossible hand and the criticism we have here (you need red cards!) is not going to be what the neutrals take away from this match.

    Also, this might/could/probably be his last spring season in UEFA anyway. I imagine he's retiring in May.
     
  15. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    Tbf any ref would be at that stage given what happened.
     
  16. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    The keeper approaching the spot/kicker should be a caution. Brings nothing but disrespect to the game.
     
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  17. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He kept giving cards and adding time. I am not going to pretend that he's likely happy with his performance, but I also have no doubt he's a professional and felt/feels an obligation to see it through to the best of his ability. But, back to what I said before, if you're rattled the ceiling for that ability can decrease.
     
  18. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Depending on who got involved, we were very close to millions of viewers learning that yellow cards don't carry into KFTM anymore.
     
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  19. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    After Kick 7. Order broke down. Players confronting opponents.
     
  20. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    After Kick 9. A caution.
     
  21. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    Pro tip for the Spanish AR2: always put the remaining 10 players from each team outside the circle. That way they are always at least 20 yards from one another and can’t yell/taunt each other.
     
  22. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    Post match confrontation. Lovely.
     
  23. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    Another masscon after the final whistle, unsurprising.
     
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  24. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Going to need to see the actual match report to see if Mateu got to 16 cautions. He is now standing around with his red out, too, for the record. I think we will see a dismissal.
     
  25. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    LAHOZ NEEDS A POLICE PRESENCE
     

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