Match 57 (QF): NED : ARG - MATEU LAHOZ (ESP)

Discussion in 'World Cup 2022 - Refereeing' started by balu, Dec 7, 2022.

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What do you think of Mateu Lahoz's performance?

Poll closed Dec 10, 2022.
  1. 1 (worst)

    26.4%
  2. 2

    17.0%
  3. 3

    24.5%
  4. 4

    20.8%
  5. 5

    3.8%
  6. 6

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. 7

    3.8%
  8. 8

    1.9%
  9. 9

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. 10 (best)

    1.9%
  1. gaolin

    gaolin Member+

    Apr 21, 2019
  2. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Sounds like Lahoz's tournament is over after this match.
     
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  3. Pelican86

    Pelican86 Member

    United States
    Jun 13, 2019
    Maybe that’s true to a certain extent. But blasting the ball away like that should be an automatic yellow, without even getting into the fact that he blasted it into the opponents’ bench.
     
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  4. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    This game needs 30 more minutes.
     
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  5. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    He has made all of our games more difficult by his inaction. Selfish.
     
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  6. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "A dropped ball is the restart when the referee stops play and the Law does not require one of the above restarts."

    This seems pretty simple to me. You might not like the approach. But it's clearly lawful. The implication that blowing the whistle requires cards is not accurate.
     
  7. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh my. Oh my
     
  8. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    100'

    I guess Messi is ok to caution if he hurts the refs ego, but only for that.

    What a goal.
     
  9. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh boy, 30 more minutes of this. Mateu is going to have one hell of time keeping 22 on the field unless he just tosses Ghorbal his red card.
     
  10. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    And before anyone says the Paredes non-red isn't that important - Argentina maybe should have faced 40 minutes 10 v 11.
     
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  11. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This feels a tad dramatic.
     
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  12. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    Come on you guys saying that lower players are going to imitate professional players like this is a little far fetched
     
  13. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And I’m not saying it does. But blowing the whistle there and doing it so slowly that you still end up with 2 cautions coming out of the stoppage is a bad look and clearly ineffective.
     
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  14. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    I swear to God, I typed that before the goal was scored.
     
  15. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    It is as much of a mandatory caution as the player who got his second yellow from removing his jersey.
    Unjust.
     
  16. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is it?
     
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  17. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    COME ON LAHOZ

    MAKE IT ABOUT YOU IN EXTRA TIME. You blew this second half trying to take yourself out of it

    welcome to the ump show
     
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  18. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    In the college games I referee? Absolutely.
     
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  19. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's completely lost control of this game.
     
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  20. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While I agree with this in principle, I don't think we can ignore the idea that Van Dijk would have almost certainly had to be sent off, too. Watch how he barreled into that fracas. It would have been 10 v 10.
     
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  21. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With both teams getting 6 subs, maybe we can get to the 16 ycs without a send-off to match the Battle of Nuremberg.
     
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  22. Pelican86

    Pelican86 Member

    United States
    Jun 13, 2019
    Van dijk should have been gone too.
     
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  23. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He may not even make it into extra time without a sending off. Something was cooking as Telemundo went to commercial.
     
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  24. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Okay. That's a different argument and I'd have to go back and look closely to see where I land on whether or not he was, in totality, effective or not there.
     
  25. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    The U-12s I coach imitate EVERYTHING they see. Some of it, they have absolutely no apparent idea why. My favorite was the kid lying down behind a wall - 40 yards from goal.
     

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