I didn't like the injury stop--he didn't stop for the Brazilian player until the Croatian player had the ball in open space. (And then Neymer got away with being a complete twit on the DB, which pushed the DB back farther than it should have been--how many times did he tell Neymar to get back? What was that, the old "oh, but I'll kick it back!" that has been gone for years now?)
Yes buttttt I think studs to the face would be easily accepted. Referee/potential VAR would not be the story on that one.
To most neutrals, yes. On the field? I am pretty sure Oliver is glad he didn't have to test your hypothesis.
44 into 45' AR1 gives an offside which looked level or onside from the angle on TV. I think Donovan calling it a "Big Miss" is correct on the gravity of the decision, although the decision is probably tight from the ARs perspective.
I have to remind myself how bad these games can get and how much all the little things that are done on the field (non KMI foul selection, presence, conversation with players, etc) keep these games calm. Left alone (or with a lower standard referee) a lot of these matches could turn into absolute nightmares and I keep reminding myself how good these guys are to keep them from turning into that.
Given what you expect now from most EPL ARs, I actually agreed it was a poor miss, if that's his implication.
I have little tolerance for affirmative misses, if you're going to be wrong, be wrong the other way. I was just saying that I think the amount he was on. Might have be impaced by leaning. That said, it pretty hard to defend.
Trying to see WHICH offside they were calling it from. I didn't see one in the original build up. Not in the case of that potential HB. But no replay so can't be sure I guess
47' I could write a book about this sequence. End of the day, since the handball wasn't deliberate and wasn't judged a position that had to be an offense, it wasn't a play, and therefore it was a deflection leading to a delayed Offside decision. I think it was correct In the end. Crazy stuff. The order of replay showed also added to confusion.
From the service immediately preceding the ball hitting the hand. I actually would have to go back to see if the, position of offside judgment was correct or not but my first impression was that it was just offside position but really close.
Folks, we need to get over our preferences about what we think works or not in terms of jersey colors. FIFA designates what colors to wear for everyone involved.
Wait, where was the offside decision on the handball check? AR1 went all the way back up to the top of the penalty area to indicate it was there, which is also where Oliver insisted the restart take place. If there was an offside that early, it actually would negate any handball decision (because Neymar would be challenging). So, like a broken clock, Dr. Joe would technically be right. That said, I'm very suspicious of an offside decision there. Did we get a good replay? And finally, that's not a punishable handball regardless. But that might be the least interesting part of this play.
The replay is 47:39 on the game clock for those who can go look now. Neymar is is 3-4 yards onside. If he's calling the subsequent phase of play, the left flanking attacker from Brazil is A) 4 yards behind the ball and B) the ball comes off a Croatia defender (the hand) anyway. This might be one of the worst offside calls I've seen at a WC since 1990. Please, someone help me figure this out. EDIT: one big gigantic NEVERMIND!
This. Look at attacker furthest left. Then ball hits hand (not deliberate, so can't be a deliberate play) leads to the offside which then gets delayed.
Neymar never touched to reset the play. The service hits to Croatian arm. Then you see Neymar appeal for handball. That ball goes to the osp attacker next.
68' Well, the replay site made this look like a soft YC, but live action, I got the impression of a late hack not playing the ball.