Match 60: Morocco vs. Portugal [QF]

Discussion in 'World Cup 2022 - Knockout Stage' started by Paul Calixte, Dec 6, 2022.

  1. portugamerifinn

    portugamerifinn Member+

    Feb 22, 2005
    Bay Area / London
    They're playing great, but Portugal could very well have 7+ SOG by itself on Saturday. Or it could struggle as it often does against teams that sit back and cede possession.

    I think facing a mid block suits Portugal just fine, it's low block and pressing teams that Portugal struggles with, so if Morocco plays a passive mid block and doesn't press much in the middle, they could be in trouble.

    Portugal has been impressively patient with its attack, so I'm confident it'll find the spaces it needs to find if it has the 2/3rds possession Morocco's opponents have been getting.
     
  2. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
  3. Mean Machine

    Mean Machine Member+

    May 23, 2018
    Switzerland has changed coaches a lot, and plays differently almost very tournament I have seen them. You never really know with them how they will play. I say they tend to be more defensive than attacking but not unusually. Like in Euro 2020, they played with a lot of possession / direct attacking football. They were defensive but tried to keep the ball and attack more. They are very inconsistent, kind of like the Arsenal of National Teams.
     
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  4. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    I am surprised Morocco vs Portugal is early than France vs England. France and England have had two days rest more, why not at least let Morocco-Portugal have 4 hours more rest on the day.
     
  5. palynka

    palynka Member

    Jun 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Money talks, it's primetime in Europe for France-England...
     
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  6. waitforit

    waitforit Member+

    Dec 3, 2010
    Valcea
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Admit it you are Eastern Europe

    Come sit over here brother
     
  7. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I hope Portugal put a few goals past Morocco. Morocco's extremely negative tactics in the game against Spain were disgraceful.
     
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  8. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    #33 Iranian Monitor, Dec 8, 2022
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2022
    Why do you make it sound like Morocco is the only side to prevail over Spain using a low bloc?

    In WC18, Russia (despite being host and trailing most of the 1st half), beat Spain on penalties in the R16 having even less possession (21%) and shots on goal (1) against them than Morocco. You can compare the stats here and here. Japan beat Spain in the group stage of this World Cup with a record low possession of 17%! Costa Rica, otoh, was thrashed 7:0 with only 18% possession. Even Germany, which usually dominates possession, had only 35% possession against Spain in the group stage-- much of it after they fell behind.

    p.s.
    all that said, I prefer Portugal to prevail, not because anything Morocco has done to get here (they have been one of the better teams in Qatar and a quarterfinal finish rates them properly), but because I think Portugal is loaded with talent and playing to their potential, they are as good as their 6:1 win over Switzerland.
     
  9. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Morocco have not been among the best teams.

    They will not develop as a team with a coach playing ultra-negatively. It is a road to nowhere.
     
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  10. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Morocco does not play negatively, much less ultra-negatively! Everyone else pretty much ceded possession to Spain as well. Even Germany!

     
  11. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    That is how it appeared to me.

    If they want to develop as a team they will have to adopt a more enterprising approach.
     
  12. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    Alternate reality. But every team that beats tiki taka does it like this. Blame boring defensive tiki taka.
     
  13. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Go Morocco for chaos sake.
     
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  14. palynka

    palynka Member

    Jun 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    There's tsuica, palinca and ....me.
     
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  15. Fureeku

    Fureeku Member

    Feb 9, 2011
    Maldives
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Maldives
    Morocco has been one of the most entertaining sides of this World Cup. Calling them boring and defensive is just lazy analysis. They remind me a lot about Costa Rica in 2014, but with more quality in defense.

    They did look absolutely shattered for large parts of the second half and beyond against Spain, but still managed to get into some good positions in the final third.

    That said, Spain are terrible and easy to play against. Block off access to your goal from the middle and they will pass themselves to death. Portugal are a lot more incisive and Morocco will likely have a few key players missing for the match.
     
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  16. pogoss

    pogoss Member

    Wydad Casablanca
    Morocco
    Jan 15, 2017
    Japan
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Morocco
    I'm happy with that, Morocco Portugal will be at midnight here in Japan and France England at 4 am.
     
  17. pogoss

    pogoss Member

    Wydad Casablanca
    Morocco
    Jan 15, 2017
    Japan
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Morocco
    In Africa we take the possession against most teams but this is the World Cup and we have to adapt because we want results, we don't want to open the doors to entertain neutral fans by conceding 7 goals and then be called naive Africans by the media.
    When we will be used to go to 1/2 finals of World Cups we can be cocky enough to challenge Spain on possession. For now we adapt.
     
  18. palynka

    palynka Member

    Jun 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Winning is the best advertisement for any team trying to reach a higher level. Only at the very top might something else matter more.
     
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  19. portugamerifinn

    portugamerifinn Member+

    Feb 22, 2005
    Bay Area / London
    #44 portugamerifinn, Dec 9, 2022
    Last edited: Dec 9, 2022
    It's a tournament and Morocco is trying to win matches, which makes complaints about style of play especially nonsensical.

    As you hinted at, fans and media will act offended by defensive tactics even when an underdog needs to deploy those tactics to best compete. What do they want, a team that won't win by playing a wide open style to do that and lose 4-1 but entertain them? These teams are trying to win, not entertain.

    It's like with Portugal at Euro 2016. They were one of the most attacking teams during the group stage and posted among the highest shot total, expected goal and expected goal difference numbers of anyone in the group stage, but they were both unlucky (Hungary scored two long-range goals off deflections) and not clinical enough near the goal, so they drew all three matches.

    Because of that, Fernando Santos strengthened the midfield defensively and replaced two defenders (Jose Fonte for past-his-prime Ricardo Carvalho and the more defensively sound Cedric for the more attacking Vieirinha) for the knockouts. It worked, Portugal kept progressing ... but TV pundits complained about it as if Portugal owed them a more attacking/entertaining style of play even though that style of play failed three matches straight during the group stage.

    It's a tournament, the point is to win/progress, not to entertain the average fan. People made fun of Portugal for drawing all three group matches in 2016 and complained about them still making the knockouts ... but then complained even more when they successfully changed tactics after recognizing their group stage shortcomings.
     
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  20. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    The only goal Morocco has conceded so far is an own goal vs Canada.
     
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  21. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Yes they were.

    They won their group at group phase, where one of the top favourites before this WC started was in (Belgium), leaving no doubts that they were the best in it. Also in it, got a draw against the same croatian team, that now happens to be in the semi's, after they defeated the top favourite of all to win this WC.

    They currently don't need to develop as a team. Right now, they already achieved that.
    At present times, they are a reality on their own right, that other teams have to deal with when facing them.

    Till now, they have excelled up to their own strength and been pretty good at it.

    Morocco has a pretty good chance to upset more than one in their next quarters match up, to become the first african team to ever reach the semi's in WC history.

    You probably may not like it, but that's only your opinion.
     
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  22. monster- exodia

    May 23, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Morocco
    Bono
    Hakimi Elyamiq Saiss Atiat-allah
    Amrabat
    Ounahi Amallah
    Ziyech En enseryi Boufal

    Aguerd & Mazraoui are out because of injury
     
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  23. palynka

    palynka Member

    Jun 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Is that official? Are the official XIs out?
     
  24. monster- exodia

    May 23, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Morocco
    Yes official
     
  25. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    Shame. No Mazraoui and Aguerd does downgrade their chances.
    How good is Elyamiq and Atiat-allah?
     

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