English players Dual Nationality thread #2

Discussion in 'England' started by roverman, Sep 26, 2020.

  1. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Scenes on here if this ever happens to us. Marcho would need a defibrillator!

     
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  2. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    All I can say is, thank god it didn’t happen when we played Wales with someone like Kieffer Moore ;)
     
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  3. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I can see Musiala or Nmecha doing it to us some day.
     
  4. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    We have Scotland next year in a friendly where it could happen there as there have a few English born players.
     
  5. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    That wouldn’t be the same thing though, neither of those two were born in England, don’t think it’s the same as Hakimi And realistically they were always probably going to choose Germany.
     
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  6. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Losing a friendly to Scotland won’t really be the same as going out of a World Cup to a Panenka.
     
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  7. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    While not the same the press would use an photo of either in an England shirt to say they were the one who got away. I think had either stayed in the UK and broke through in the Pl they might not have switched. Once they returned to Germany they were always going to.
     
  8. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    There was an interview with Balogun the other week, certainly doesn't sound particularly commited to England considering he's talking about making a decision soon:

    He'll be a very tough one to keep hold of I think, the US will be in recruitment overdrive given striker is a big weak spot for them. Difficulty will be especially hard after he finishes up with the under 21's in the summer where he will no longer be within the system.
     
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  9. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    I think if he wants to play then the US would be the best option but he's recently talked about Nigeria. The Super Eagles have good competition in his position though.
     
  10. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    Just seen a new interview with Kevin Kilbane on why he never wanted to represent England.
    I swear no one would remember this guy if he wasnt coming out making that same statement every 6 months.
     
  11. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
  12. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Did he mention he got over a 100 caps for Ireland or that England under 21s called him up and he turned them down? He usually does..
     
  13. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    Funnily enough, that did come up. He's never mentioned that before......

    The guy speaks like he's Messi and that England were begging him.
     
  14. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Its all kicked off in the US camp about Gio Reyna. Might make more duels think twice from jioning them.
     
  15. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Why, what’s happening there?
     
  16. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    He almost got sent home and there was some sort vote about it.

     
  17. ht_hu96

    ht_hu96 Member+

    Middlesbrough
    England
    May 23, 2019
    Don’t know whether you have come across an Irish channel called OTB on YouTube, but he is always on there. Anyway he was on there the other day and the worst thing was that the Irish presenter was being very fair on England and saying he doesn’t mind England winning, but Kilbane was retorting and talking about how much he wants France to win and that he never wants to see England win. Just a really weird bloke.
     
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  18. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    I don't know if it's just me, but he seems to have become more anti english since the declan rice situation.
    He never came out and said these things before. Like you said though, strange guy considering he was born and bred here and his kids are all english.
     
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  19. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Guys like Kilbane and the other guy I can't remember right now that are really chippy about this, I think they were brought up in England probably by Irish nationalist parents that always told them that they're Irish and not English. Then they go and play for Ireland and you get a decent amount of Irish people saying they're not really Irish and 'plastic Paddys'. It makes them want to prove their allegiance all the time.
     
  20. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    Absolutely this. I've said before that my Irish mum always says 'if you have to prove your Irishness, then you're not really irish'.


    P. S. I think you're thinking about Gary breen.
     
  21. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    I think there's something a bit performative to Kilbane's anti-Englishness, as if he feels he has to constantly prove that he's Irish. Comparable to the Orange Order's desperate need to assert their Britishness in a way that looks slightly baffling to people from Britain itself.

    Not sure he's worth discussing though. It's his problem, not ours.
     
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  22. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Sorry, hadn't read this but I'm repeating your point. I agree, clearly.
     
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  23. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    I used to play footy with his brother for a while and to be honest, you wouldn’t even have guessed he was Irish but then again, not sure the conversation ever really swayed that way to notice how patriotic he as to Ireland or maybe we did talk about it but I can’t recall as was about 20 years ago.
     
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  24. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    Maybe his brother feels differently to him.... Then again, he's never been asked to asert his Irishness on TV so maybe he doesn't feel the need to prove it as much as Kevin.
     
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  25. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Balogun up to 10 league goals for the season, highest under 21 scorer in Europe this season. In addition only Neymar and mbappe have scored more in ligue 1. All this while playing for a fairly awful reims attack.

    US will be coming for him hard with their striker woes but he will be deserving of an England call up if he can keep this up till March.
     
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