Ukraine v Russia II

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  1. Robert Borden

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    #6101 Robert Borden, Dec 6, 2022
    yes via RNRC who provides state guarantees to insurance firms such as Ingosstrakh, which insures their tankers
    https://www.reuters.com/business/en...russian-oil-shipments-sources-say-2022-06-10/
    • Western insurers withdrew cover from state-run Sovcomflot (SCF) when Russia's biggest shipping group was hit by sanctions, but Western insurance sources said the Russian replacement cover would likely be enough to keep Russian vessels sailing.
     
  2. Robert Borden

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    #6102 Robert Borden, Dec 6, 2022
    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: sure
     
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  3. Yoshou

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    #6103 Yoshou, Dec 6, 2022
    16. :)
     
  4. Yoshou

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    #6104 Yoshou, Dec 6, 2022
    I found an image that shows Russia's western oil export terminals (aside from one up in Murmansk). I believe there is also one on the Russian east coast, but I don't believe that one really matters as there aren't any pipelines that run from the oil fields that feed Europe that go to that terminal and, if there are pipelines that do it, those pipelines are not large enough to support the Asia's demand.

    [​IMG]

    So, looking at that map, it really appears there are only 3 oil export terminals Russia will be able to use since Turkey isn't allowing oil tankers through that aren't insured by western insurers. Also, with winter coming up, we can pretty much scratch out the terminal in Murmansk as that should freeze over. Even the two around St. Petersburg is going to suck.

    Long story.. Russia oil exports are going to take a hit if they aren't willing to comply with the $60 price cap.
     
  5. Robert Borden

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    #6106 Yoshou, Dec 6, 2022
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  7. American Brummie

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    #6107 American Brummie, Dec 6, 2022
    Why do you choose to ignore the reality of the world around you? Is it profitable?
     
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  8. roby

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    #6108 roby, Dec 6, 2022
    Russia has the advantage of having no reporting of any pipe leaks except for that minor sabotage a while back. :whistling:
     
  9. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    #6109 Cascarino's Pizzeria, Dec 6, 2022
  10. song219

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    #6110 song219, Dec 7, 2022
    I saw something a few days ago asking (Are the British to Blame for Bucha). I didn't read it because I see enough stuff from tankies but the timing was curious to me. Now with this coming out it makes a bit more sense.
     
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  11. Robert Borden

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    #6111 Robert Borden, Dec 7, 2022
    There's more to the world than what's "around you", that's what make "the world - not just your own bubble" interesting. Exploring different point of views doesn't mean that you "agree" with what's going on. No I don't agree with the war in Ukraine but I don't have to take everything Trudeau or the CBC is telling us at face value either on this side of the border.

    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: sure?
     
  12. American Brummie

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    #6112 American Brummie, Dec 7, 2022
    You say a ton of shit that smart people wouldn't get caught dead saying, is all.
     
  13. Robert Borden

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    #6113 Robert Borden, Dec 7, 2022
    You should get out more and leave your bubble more often ;)
     
  14. The Devil's Architect

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    #6114 The Devil's Architect, Dec 7, 2022
    Says the colonizer
     
  15. superdave

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    #6115 superdave, Dec 7, 2022
    Easiest call in decades.





    Don’t colonists, by definition, leave their bubbles?
     
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  16. Yoshou

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    #6116 Yoshou, Dec 7, 2022
    By bursting into other people's bubbles and loudly proclaiming that they are the correct ones, the other people already in the bubble are wrong, and if the people already in that bubble don't conform to their opinions, they will be "removed" from the bubble.
     
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  17. American Brummie

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    #6117 American Brummie, Dec 8, 2022
    And hang out with useful idiots for Russian propo???
     
  18. The Jitty Slitter

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    #6118 The Jitty Slitter, Dec 8, 2022
    Speaking of which, I've often wondered why Team Trump believed Ukraine had dirt on Joe Biden.

    What was Rudy doing in the Ukraine all the time?

    With yesterday's indictment of Derkach, I think we pretty much know the answer to that now. Rudy was tangled up in a RIS intelligence op which resulted in the Ukraine impeachment, and the laptop fiasco

    I also think the MAGAe are drinking their own bathwater and need to spend more time in vegan cafes in San Francisco to get out of their bubble. IMO they actually believe the Joe Biden dirt must be there, because that is the corruption they are familiar with. The likes of Musk also believe it, because he is a red pilled elite, who only talks to the sycophant libertarian bros who surround him,

    With GOP taking over the house, we will now see these conspiracies whipped up in a way that effects the war.

    Weeks before the laptop story, the US Treasury Department imposed financial sanctions on Derkach—the son of a former KGB official—and dubbed him “an active Russian agent for over a decade.” It was the Trump administration that declared Derkach was one of a group of “Russia-linked election interference actors.” The Treasury said he had maintained “close connections with the Russian Intelligence Services” and had “directly or indirectly engaged in, sponsored, concealed, or otherwise been complicit in foreign interference in an attempt to undermine the upcoming 2020 US presidential election.” Steve Mnuchin, Trump’s own Treasury secretary, proclaimed, “Derkach and other Russian agents employ manipulation and deceit to attempt to influence elections in the United States and elsewhere around the world.” Previously, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence had told Congress that Derkach was “spreading claims about corruption” as part of the Kremlin’s effort to undermine Biden’s campaign.

    Here was yet another Russian attack on a US election, and Giuliani was in league with one of its perps. This was all public information when the laptop story broke. And, as the New York Post reported, Giuliani had a starring role in this caper, for he was the source who had shared the laptop with the New York Post. Of course, this rendered the whole thing suspect.

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/12/what-musk-and-co-want-you-to-forget-about-twitterfiles/​
     
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    #6119 American Brummie, Dec 8, 2022
    Let's hold off on "GOPers taking over the house" claims until they elect a speaker.
     
  20. Brilliant Dutch

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    #6120 Brilliant Dutch, Dec 8, 2022
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    #6121 Auriaprottu, Dec 8, 2022
  22. russ

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    #6122 russ, Dec 8, 2022
    I know an arms dealer who finna* fall out the fourth floor window.
    Accidentally.

    *Is my use of finna appropriate in this situation?
     
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    #6123 Auriaprottu, Dec 8, 2022
    Absolutely!
     
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  24. yasik19

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    #6124 yasik19, Dec 8, 2022
    I'm glad the exchange happened, though I feel for Whelan and his family. It's definitely not an exchange of equals or anywhere near that, but this is the same Putin bullying the West and I'm sure Biden felt all kinds of pressure to make it happen.
     
  25. roby

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    #6125 roby, Dec 8, 2022
    Now I'm confused! Who was right...George or Bubble Boy? A timely answer would be appreciated as the Moops are playing Portugal tomorrow! :confused:
     
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