FIFA World Cup '26: News & Analysis

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tell ya right now: if FIFA offers stadium packages like the Centenario did, and I can blindly get tickets for 3 group stage, 2 R32 and 1 R16 match in Miami before the draw's even made, I'm buyin'.
     
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  2. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    They did this for the WWC next year. I didn't get a package but did manage to get a couple of tickets for the final when the individual games came up.
     
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  3. Itiofele

    Itiofele Member

    Sporting Cristal
    Peru
    Jan 1, 2018
    Lima, Peru
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Me too. My plan is to buy stadium packages in New York, Boston and Philadelphia.
     
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  4. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
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  5. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    They did this for USA '94.
    4 group stage + 1 R16.
    I bought Stanford and Pasadena.
    Went on sale in June '93.
     
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  6. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    If they do bundles like that at a discount for locals like they did for Russia I definitely see all the games selling out.

    Not sure what they will do though this time around.
     
  7. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    New York? Are you sure? 2-3 hours each way to and from the stadium minimum. I'll let you know if I airbnb my house that month because I won't have any reason to be in NY then.

    Boston is an even bigger nightmare from what I hear, though I don't have any direct experience.
     
  8. Itiofele

    Itiofele Member

    Sporting Cristal
    Peru
    Jan 1, 2018
    Lima, Peru
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I plan to rent a car and stay at a middle point between Philly and Foxboro (White Plains? Norwalk? Stamford?). I see you are in Brooklyn. How easy is to park there?
     
  9. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member+

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    With 48 teams, I would support a 24-team knockout phase.

    Therefore in my 3-vs-3 format, the top team in each group would qualify directly to the round of 16, and the next two would play the repechage. My format would encourage teams with two wins not to gift away the third group match.
     
  10. uuaww

    uuaww Member+

    Nov 21, 2007
    New Orleans, LA
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I really like the 24 team knockout idea with 4 team groups. You really force teams to go for the byes.
     
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  11. Every Four Years

    May 16, 2015
    Miramar, Florida
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    Scenes when two of the group games are Tunisia v Jamaica and Cameroon v Oman though :laugh:
     
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  12. papermache16

    papermache16 Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes.

    Top 8 group winners get a first round bye. Other 4 group winners plus the 12 runners up play a "playin" match to get to the R16.

    One downside is that a team that plays their 3rd game early may be waiting a while to see where/when/who they play, but I'm guessing the 24 team WCs didn't see it as that big of a deal back then (where the 3rd place team often didn't know when they were playing until the group stage matches were almost over).
     
  13. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A Jamaica game here in Miami would be lit - Miramar would shut down for the day :D
     
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  14. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Really depends where in Brookyn and weekends v weekdays, day v night. Roughly speaking, the closer to Manhattan the tougher it becomes, especially weekdays. But on evenings and weekends you will always find free street parking with a little effort. Even in Manhattan itself.
     
  15. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Surprised nobody posted here, but I noticed some stronger rumors from multiple sources that FIFA seems to be leaning to the 12x4 format now. Thank God!
     
  16. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    It was vaguely mentioned in the article I posted.
     
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  17. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wenger also mentioned two 6x4s which would probably help keep rest balanced going into the knockout stage since it would keep the eight third place sides more equally balanced.
     
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  18. Every Four Years

    May 16, 2015
    Miramar, Florida
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    Two 6 × 4s? As in, third place teams would only be compared with teams from 5 other groups instead of 11? And the knockout bracket presumably would be divided into two halves, one for teams from Groups A-F and one for teams from Groups G-L?
     
  19. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah. It makes sense when you think about the number of permutations needed to place eight third place sides vs four in the round of 32.
     
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  20. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But I hate the idea of teams being protected from each other before the Final (see: Gold Cup formats keeping the US and Mexico from meeting too early :rolleyes:)
     
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  21. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    They need to try and do something to punish the Third place teams if they decide do that format.

    I would make them travel the furthest. Something like Seattle to Mexico City or something or Toronto to Guadalajara for the knockouts.
     
  22. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Yeah, I am not sure I get the point of having two 6x4s. Seems unnecessary, though I haven't really thought about it in-depth. Would prefer not having the top 2 teams in a given group meet again before the final, like what happened in 2002.
     
  23. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    You can always cross the two groups over for the round of 16. That way its possible that any two teams could make the final at the start of tournament, with results separating them as the cup goes on.
     
  24. Itiofele

    Itiofele Member

    Sporting Cristal
    Peru
    Jan 1, 2018
    Lima, Peru
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    So essentially the same as in Queens, which is where I lived 15 years ago. Nothing has changed then.

    That is why I am leaning towards staying outside of the 5 boroughs...
     
  25. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With the 24 team Euros there is that table that predetermines where the third place teams match up against in the R16 based on which four groups have the third place team advance. With six groups and four third place teams it makes only 15 combinations. With 12 groups and eight teams advancing it makes 495 combinations. My guess is that's going to be one of the big reasons to go with two 24 team tournaments basically.
     
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