Match 55 (R16): MAR : ESP - RAPALLINI (ARG)

Discussion in 'World Cup 2022 - Refereeing' started by balu, Dec 4, 2022.

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What do you think of Rapallini's performance?

Poll closed Dec 7, 2022.
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  1. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Okay, but your post was about not giving cards rather than not giving red cards. I understand it's hard to get to 2CT if you give fewer yellow cards, so understand that implicit argument. But all I'm saying is that we've seen yellow cards awarded this tournament that were not in 2014 and 2018, which is a step in the right direction (particularly as SPA with advantage isn't a card anymore).
     
  2. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    PIADM ALERT!
     
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  3. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    Bingo! Dangerous play IFK ✅
     
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  4. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    Well, it will get interesting if a 2nd caution came out then because even FIFA didn't know for their website. There would be a small international crisis until people realize what's happenend.

    EDIT - They still have not updated the website. Not sure how that information is still wrong. At an event at this level, some FIFA officers should be conferring with the 4th or 5th official at the stoppage between FT and 1 ET to ensure their info matches the official's info.
     
  5. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    95'

    Good choice to withhold the flag there on the check back run, just in case.
     
  6. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would say this is pretty simple:

    In this tournament, there are are probably a couple dozen incidents where you could expect a card in most professional domestic leagues that weren't given.

    In 2018 and 2014, there were probably several dozen such incidents in each tournament.

    The perception is understandable because the bar at World Cups is just higher in this era. But yeah, I think there is some bias related to the timeline, too. People forget how bad 2014 was--blatant SPA was going completely unpunished.
     
  7. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    I buy that.
     
  8. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    106'

    Some pre-corner tripping forced a retake. Rappallini, true to form for today, comes in and tells them to knock it off. Then does a little more chastising when the pushing resumes before the kick.
     
  9. Lucky Wilbury

    Lucky Wilbury Member

    Mar 19, 2012
    United States
    He has done nothing to prevent any fouls and has used no personality to manage the situations that do pop up.
     
  10. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    Sure he has, he blows the whistle 9 times and then tells them to knock it off. /s

    Big pass @ 115' Morocco wanted a free kick. Rapallini says nada.
     
  11. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    117' Was the ball given as out, and if it was was that only after the play completed (deliberately withheld flag?)

    Rapallini is committed to doing the minimum necessary, and the players are letting him referee it that way.

    Spain are committed to wasting all of their chances.

    Morocco are committed to doing anything necessary to get to kicks.
     
  12. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
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    May 25, 2006
  13. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wonder how Elfath is feeling at the moment...
     
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  14. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    123'
    He is working so hard moving back and forth. And yet, he wants to be hanging out in the players' space in the worst kind of way.

    Indirectly related to this, if Morocco goes through, it has a clear impact on Elfath's prospects for another game, right?
     
  15. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ha. It would really suck if an American referee lost out on a WC Final because his birth nation greatly exceeded expectations.

    This is one of three major pieces of the puzzle that has to fall now.

    Morocco can't get to the semis.
    Portugal can't get to the final.
    Brazil must make the semis and/or a South American team must make the final.

    I think if all three of those happen, he's the clear favorite.
     
  16. FANDROCH

    FANDROCH Member

    Ajax
    Czech Republic
    Dec 2, 2022
    all three distinct possibilities
     
  17. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Right. The odds are in his favor. But as I said before, parlays are challenging no matter how they look individually.

    And it makes him a favorite, not a guarantee.
     
  18. Ickshter

    Ickshter Member+

    Manchester City
    Mar 14, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And Morroco STILL have yet to be scored upon by the opposition in this WC... Even through KFTM... :eek:
     
  19. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    Well, ain't that some sh*t.
     
  20. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    It has to be an odd feeling as a ref where your success in getting a plum assignment is contingent upon your country(s) team(s) not succeeding.
     
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  21. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Les Arbitres followed this rather closely with Mejuto Gonzalez in 2008.

    Yes, it must be. I would guess it's a bit of old hat for most of your top UEFA guys and the Brazilian-Argentinians. But it must be extra weird when you're American-Moroccan and you are clearly in the discussion for the WC Final. That being said, Elfath seems like he has the personality to roll with the punches on this sort of thing. Which is probably one of the reasons he's a real candidate, too.
     
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  22. USSF REF

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    Refereeing worked in the end. But it's an unpalatable strategy that felt inconsistent and with some missed cautions. Still, it was a edge of the seat entertaining game, but it was ugly on the ref said IMO. It was a strategy that he chose and stuck to and the players ended up accepting it.

    5, I guess.

    Except, I gave Oliver and Elfath 4's on other matches for similar issues with consistency and cautions earlier in the event. So...

    4.

    That's a rating.
     
  23. FANDROCH

    FANDROCH Member

    Ajax
    Czech Republic
    Dec 2, 2022
    That’s exactly what I gave him
     
  24. El Rayo Californiano

    Feb 3, 2014
    And Bounou didn't play in the game against Germany.

    Another for the World Cup bingo card: named substitute used but not a substitution.
     
  25. El Rayo Californiano

    Feb 3, 2014
    Can't edit anymore, but scratch Germany, replace with Belgium.
     

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