Germany to Host the UEFA Euro 2024

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Ger90, Sep 27, 2018.

  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    just make Mustafi player-coach and also be DFB manager on the side too.

    he's a jack of all trade who can do everything!!!
     
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  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I'm not a future lineup person tbh. I prefer more realistic and more pool focus over projections based on hopes/desires which tends to overhype players.

    its also a question of much youth will get integrated for realz by Flick vs be mostly benchers topic. Outside of Musiala that's completly open.

    for 2024 one has to look at realistic options its very close like end of next season. Also some players aren't options but could become them next season too.

    2026 is too far away would gather 2005s will become options by this one. Same for players from from 00-03s too. In 4 years so much can happen.

    if you axe Muller-Reus than yes Samardzic should be there.

    GKs since Neuer refused to back down and Flick is bias looks like he's not going anywhere. After Nubel-F.Muller one has to hope that Dahmen/Grill can breakthrough somewhere and then that likes of Mantl, Fruchtl, Atubolu, Scheiber etc make real progress. From Youth GKs these 4 are ones with most progress, Mantl gonna become #1 at Salzburg hopefully Summer. Fruchtl is #1 in Austria, once Flekken bails Atubolu should become #1. Schreiber on loan has brokenthrough XI in 2BL and only missing is confirmation on whether he'll continue as #1 or not. Guys like Olschowsky, Philipp, Ramaj, Plogmann etc is all wait and see for now. But this also means none would be ready for 2024 Euro, though more realistic for 2026. So it means we are stuck with the Neuer, ter Stegen, Trapp, Leno, Baumann, Ortega, Nubel, F,Muller
     
  3. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Ter Stegen and Trapp both have at least 4 solid years left in their tank…we have few years for a new goalkeeping talent to pop up…
    Hopefully Nubel will turn out good
     
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  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    issue with that is that 4 years isn't a long time and it could easliy happen that 0 breakthrough.

    if you think about it, Nubel-F.Muller brokethrough 4 years ago aka in past 4 years 0 GKs brokethrough for realz. :cautious::cautious::cautious:

    that's issue for position with 0 integration, 0 rotations, 0 subbing unless injured. Why give chances if you can just buy experienced GK? Clubs admit they don't give a shit about RL for GKs too. These days mass injuries is only way you'll see any young GK get chances.

    from 98-99=best bet is Dahmen, Grill, Benda, Moser, Menzel
    Although most here won't be for Senior NT. And Grill and Dahmen have 1BL exp but neither is #1. Dahmen gonna bail from Mainz but nothing says will end up in 1BL. Could easliy be 2BL-1st Abroad,

    from 00-01
    your best bet looking like Fruchtl, Mantl, Plogmann, Krahl, Heekeren, V.Muller, Lyska, Kersken, Voll, Philipp, Olschowsky, Ramaj, Klein, Unbehaun, Riess, Schneller, Schock.

    a lot here nowhere near 1BL or max #1 in 3rd Liga so far. And no Olschowsky hasn't brokethrough anything. Its unknown who will succeed Sommer as #1 come Summer.

    from 02-03
    best bet so far looking like Atubolu, Schreiber, Gebhardt, Bordner, Adamczyk, Wienand, Gorka, Ernst, Schulz, Schenk, Urbig, Sauter, Ostrzinski, Krumrey, Hagemoser, Kruth, Schulz (yes 2 GKs Schulz and unrelated, LOL), Noll, Lord, Schulze

    although once again vast majority like all barring 2 are nowhere near non 3rd Liga-RL #1


    The reality is that there is a 3rd Liga dead end when it comes to GK in Germany. And there is very very little openings, something I've brought up numerous times in past.

    Just recently, media saying Timo Horn bailing from Koln but that issue is extremely limited options in Germany could force him to 1st Abroad. Which confirms it all too.

    what is killing GK chances is coaches who have 0 interest in betting on young GKs unless forced too and International transfer markets......you want GK=just buy.

    A lot of people think 05 GK Seimen is one of most talented GKs in Germany but won't be #1 until F.Muller bails from Stuttgart. Although him and Atubolu are lucky in that Stuttgart and Freiburg seem high on them enough to want to POTENTIALLY (no guarantee) make them #1 in future. Shows key to GKs is being at right club for chances not club name.
     
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  5. Aderthan

    Aderthan Member+

    Schwarz weiss essen
    Germany
    Nov 17, 2020
    Mustafi will at least playing the basic style of tactical football. He'll put Fullkrug as the focal point and then Moukoko replacing Gnabry in last 15 min of the games. I mean why one need to complicated things?

    Mustafi the coach >>>>>>> Flick
     
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  6. dabny

    dabny Member

    Anderlecht
    Belgium
    Apr 5, 2019
    Germany's overall record as host nation isnt that great.
    at least in terms of winning the title, only once out of 4 times.

    1974 world cup....won it

    1988 euro...semifinal

    2005 confeds cup...semifinal

    2006 world cup...semifinal


    also interesting to note that germany's only ever lost 3 world cup qualifiers in their history and all 3 were home games.
     
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  7. Blueberry_night

    Blueberry_night Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    With Watzke on helm at least we could become runner up in every tournament just like BVB in bundesliga. Major improvement I say
     
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  8. Aderthan

    Aderthan Member+

    Schwarz weiss essen
    Germany
    Nov 17, 2020
    A GK position is a tricky one. If you dont play regularly, your career will goin' nowhere. And there's a GK with great potential but somehow failed to live up to the expectations ( Pollersbeck, Rensing, Hildebrand,Wellenreuther).
     
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  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Lothar Matthäus: "The team wasn't well-drilled and that's a mistake I have to blame the coach for, although I never criticized Hansi Flick before. For me he's the right coach, but he did things in the first game & in preparation that maybe should have been done differently"

    "The many changes, especially in the position of right-back and striker, was one of the reasons for group stage exit"

    "In terms of the football that was played, it was a different elimination than four years ago in Russia. We played three bad games back then. This year I would say two and a half games were perfectly fine"

    on Oliver Bierhoff: "Of course he is also responsible for the failure of recent years. We not only played three shameful tournaments in a row, but also two Nations League group stage exits. The goals that had been set were different"
    Bayern & Germany

    on the debate around the One Love armband: "Oliver Bierhoff is of course responsible because he couldn't handle the pressure and unrest from the outside. Not only him, but the president and the people in charge at the DFB - they all let the coach and the team down"

    "I'm thinking, for example, of Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, who has a lot of experience, who knows club football, who has played world cups and has the thinking of a player. These are people who would be good for the DFB"

    "I hope the DFB will speak honestly about their mistakes. I think of President Neuendorf, who criticized everything here in Doha before the World Cup and then I see him during the game sitting in the stands next to Gianni Infantino & smiling at the camera for 3 minutes"

    "The players notice that, they're put under pressure to set an example and protest, but then they see the people who are demanding it smiling in front of the camera"

    "I hope the young players who were here will develop more in the next 2 years. I also believe that Hansi Flick will be the coach at Euro 2024. Hansi is self-conscious and I am convinced that for 2024 we'll see a team that will be put together and well-drilled early on"
     
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  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Stefan Effenberg: "Hansi Flick has to think about Manuel Neuer. We can be happy and proud that we have and had him in the German goal. He revolutionized goalkeeping and made a mark. But he also had a lot of injuries, it's not easy to keep coming back at this age"

    "Neuer said he would continue, but it's Flick's decision to make now. He has to send a clear signal, the players can't decide for themselves. Neuer is no longer untouchable."

    "We have ter Stegen and Trapp in goal behind Neuer, that would be a signal, also for the fans a year and a half before the Euros, then the fans would go the common way again"
     
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  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    :eek:
     
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  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    end of an era
    no more Hummels, Reus. Muller, Gundogan

    then Neuer could lose #1 but problem is would he stay or refuse if he did lose #1.
     
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  13. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    All things come to a end. It's time we moved on to the next generation.
     
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  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


     
  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  16. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    The remaining 9% who think Bierhoff should stay need to be subjected to a psychiatric evaluation ASAP.
     
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  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Next-Gen Ten: Germany’s brightest young talents — Part 1
    In the aftermath of the devastating loss in the group stages of the World Cup, it is worth looking at some of the bright young talents that could

    In light of Germany getting knocked out in the group stages of the World Cup, many fans are despairing about Germany’s future. Aside from the likes of Jamal Musiala and Florian Wirtz, are there any young players who can become world stars and lead Germany to glory again? Yes, absolutely. There are a lot of extremely talented young German players. The 2005 generation, in particular, is shaping up to be exceptionally promising.

    For the sake of bringing something new to the table, this article will not be discussing the more well known talents that could potentially become stars for Germany, specifically Youssoufa Moukoko, Karim Adeyemi, Paul Wanner, Wirtz, and Musiala. The point is to talk about some of the young and bright talents-21 years of age and under- that the casual Germany fan may not have heard of. So who are these players, you may be asking?

    Tarek Buchmann, 17, CB, Bayern Munich
    Tarek Buchmann is probably the brightest young talent Germany has in defense. The Bayern Munich youngster has impressed for years now due to his sheer speed and power in defense as well as his tidiness on the ball, all of which are absolute essentials for a modern defender. And despite his young age, Buchmann is not one for making mistakes, instead oozing confidence and calmness far beyond his age. Anyone who watched him at the U-17 Euros will have come away impressed by the young German, where his duels with a certain Mathys Tel were a treat for the eyes. He has been struggling with injuries as of late (as Bayern fans, we’re used to that) but if injuries don’t stop him, there seems little that can. Recent reports have suggested that coach Julian Nagelsmann has integrated Buchmann into first team training with most of the first team at the World Cup and may keep him there even after the first team players return. That is good news for Bayern fans, Germany fans and those of us who want reruns of the Tel vs Buchmann duels. Buchmann is a player who can go very far and considering that Germany’s talent at CB is rather meagre, that could be extremely important.

    Lazar Samardžić, 20, CM, Udinese
    It is truly criminal how under the radar Samardžić has been, considering his exploits and talent. At 20-years-old, he is one of the more senior players on this list but despite his slightly lackluster reputation in relation to his talent, he is still an exceptionally promising player. Samardžić is an absolute magician with the ball at his feet, specializing in finding solutions nobody else could spot. His dribbling, awareness and passing range are all superb and that helps him dominate the pitch in his effortless style. He’s played in multiple positions over the years, but he seems to prefer a roaming role in midfield.

    After breaking through at Hertha Berlin, he committed the cardinal sin of moving to RB Leipzig for the 2020/21 season, though Samardžić thankfully realized his error just a year later and moved to Udinese. His first season at the club was somewhat underwhelming, but this current campaign Samardžić has so far played in every single Udinese game bar one, getting three goals and one assist at an average of a goal contribution every 130 minutes. If Samardžić continues to establish himself at Udinese, he might well become a candidate for the 2024 Euros.

    Kevin Schade, 21, FW, SC Freiburg

    Kevin Schade is an enigma. Truly, a very unique player. He broke through at SC Freiburg last season and, despite a terrible injury that kept him out for over half a year, has managed to fight his way back into the team again. Kevin Schade is one of the most direct footballers in the world, possessing a single track mind to move the ball towards goal in any way possible. And due to his freakish athletic prowess, he is capable of doing that better than most players in the world. He is one of the three quickest players in the Bundesliga, consistently competing and sometimes beating the speed of even Alphonso Davies. Schade’s dribbling abilities are also fantastic, reminiscent of the Canadian star, while he packs a lot of punch behind his shots. Not only that, but with a 6’1” build and a truly incredible leap, he is a fantastic aerial threat as well. Bayern fans may remember when he leaped so high he beat an outstretched Neuer to a ball falling from the sky. From pace to power to the ability to outjump anyone, Schade has got any physical ability one could ask for from a footballer.

    A look at Schade’s Fbref stats is also quite amusing. He ranks in the 99th percentile for non-penalty goals, 97th percentile for non-penalty xG, 90th percentile for non-penalty expected goals and expected assists and 91st percentile for total shots for players in the world in his position. Yet he also ranks in the 1st percentile for passes attempted, passes completed, pass completion rate, total passing distance and progressive passing distance. I think this sums up Schade as a player. He struggles to get himself involved in games at times and needs to work on his off the ball movement, but he always gets something done with the limited times he gets the ball. And if he can progress further at Freiburg and turn this beautiful, crazy blend of skills into a complete package, he will be an absolute star.

    Arijon Ibrahimović, 17, FW, Bayern Munich

    Wanner may be off limits from this discussion, but fellow Bayern jewel Arijon Ibrahimović is not. Both Wanner and Ibra have been the crown jewels of Bayern’s academy, but in recent years the former has clearly taken a few more steps than the latter. That is not to say that Ibrahimović is by any means failing, though. He is currently on 10 goals and two assists in nine games in the U-19 Bundesliga for a struggling U-19 Bayern side and has recently been invited to train with the senior team as well.

    Ibrahimović has played in various positions across the front line, but has recently found more of a home on the right. Ibrahimović is fast, strong, confident, extremely skilled on the ball and can hit a free kick so sweetly. He can be somewhat inconsistent but he makes up for it in spades with his quality. This kid is so talented and he can reach the very top with the right attitude and work ethic.

    Sidney Raebiger, 17, CM, Greuther Fürth
    Raebiger has had big clubs after him for a long time and it’s not hard to see why. He’s a very hard working midfielder with an eye for a pass and the creativity to continually unlock the opposition defense. When things don’t go well, he’s the first to take charge and drag everyone else up with him. Raebiger is also usually the central hub of the midfield, consistently recycling possession and letting the play run through him. Considering his overall style and his somewhat lacking height, he has a very similar playing style to Kimmich.

    He’s actually a youth player out of RB Leipzig’s ranks (ew), but he moved to Greuther Fürth in the summer of 2022 in order to get some first team football. Due to injuries, that has so far not gone to plan but if Raebiger can collect significant playing time in the second division at 17, he will be well on his way to fulfilling his potential.
    https://www.bavarianfootballworks.c...ijon-ibrahimovic-kevin-schade-sidney-raebiger
     
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  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    THIS
    been saying for ages don't see current 95-96 winning anything but that they struggled to even get out of GS shows how WASTED POTENTIAL they are.


    even Euro 2020 was ugly, if anyone remembers our Hungery 2-2. It was Musiala who saved our asses with 2nd goal with his dribbling in 84th min. We were headiing towards 2-1 L.

    Think about it if not for 03 Musiala, Euro 2020 would have been

    France 5 pts
    Portugal 4 pts
    Hungary 4 pts
    Germany 3 pts

    Like Legit 95-96=
    WC18=GS Exit
    Euro 20=saved by a 03, otherwise GS Exit would have been end
    WC22=GS Exit

    for me its clear the 02-onwards+some older are more likely to win something that current core crop.
     
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  19. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Three immediate players who should become regular starters for me are samardzic, wirtz, Fullkrug and Bella at the back with der stegan as the number keeper
     
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  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    for me Mustafi, Rudy, Draxler!!!
     
  21. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    harsh
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  22. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Turns out Julian Draxler is far more of a leader than Neuer. Who would have thought?

    Remember. Julian Draxler is Germany's last tournament winning captain.
     
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  23. Aderthan

    Aderthan Member+

    Schwarz weiss essen
    Germany
    Nov 17, 2020
    Draxler's CC 2017 team would beat Japan 2022.
    Ter Stegen, Plattenhardt, Mustafi, Rudy,Heinrich, Can, Demirbay,Younes,Demme(injured),Stindl,Wagner.
    Nein love team.
     
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  24. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I agree with this - but I think Flick's team will learn from it

    I doubt TT would take the job - he is waiting for a big club role.
     
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  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Philipp Lahm: "In Qatar, the big nations have succeeded so far, only not us. Germany have lost defensive stability – the team cannot keep anyone away from their goal. Every opponent creates chances, even Costa Rica and Oman. Germany’s game always suffers a break."

    "In all group matches Germany showed passion, commitment & aggression. The opponents sensed there were players with quality. But there was a lack of strategy and order; it was never clear who would take on which role. Hansi Flick’s team were not not well organised in Qatar"

    "We failed to control the game. To control a game you have to develop play from the defence and from the centre. That is a law of football. These positions – in the jargon 4, 5, 6, 8 and 10 – must complement each other and develop a blind understanding"

    "Stability comes from continuity. For a long time, however, it was not clear who would defend in the centre for Germany. The midfield didn’t find itself, although the right players were available."

    "I was sure that Joshua Kimmich, Leon Goretzka and Ilkay Gündogan would complement each other to form a strong unit if played together for three or four games. That was not the case."

    "There wasn't an apparent approach in our offensive play. Germany have four attackers with very good skills in Serge Gnabry, Jamal Musiala, Kai Havertz and Leroy Sané, as well as the alternatives Thomas Müller and Niclas Füllkrug. I would have settled on that much earlier"

    "Football is all about the details. For attacking that means, for example: how do I penetrate the box without giving up everything? How do I reduce the danger of a counterattack if I lose the ball while dribbling?"

    "A team can only solve risk management problems together, in coordination with each other. Argentina, for example, are strong at it. Germany lack the structure to do this or to play a game that suffocates the opponent, which inevitably results in conceding goals."

    "It will be a challenging task to form a team with a view to the European Championship at home in a year and a half. Germany must reinvent themselves"
     

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