Next manager after Berhalter

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  1. ironduke2010

    ironduke2010 Member

    Mar 18, 2005
    A2, MI USA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    maybe it is a bit early for 'dolo, but, perhaps unlike berhalter, 'dolo has put in a lot more coaching "dues" (several years in the german system with hannover and germany youth) prior to getting his UEFA pro license (i presume berhalter needed that to coach hammarby). an mls cup in his first season in charge suggests his 7 years of german coaching was good training.
     
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  2. mfw13

    mfw13 Member+

    Jul 19, 2003
    Seattle
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    If you want an American, Brian Schmetzer has to be first in line.
     
  3. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT
    #678 smokarz, Dec 4, 2022
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2022
    Calm down bud....no one is eating your lunch.

    Did Stewart pick Berthalter 4 years ago? Is that the best they got after a supposedly comprehensive International search? Did the Fed interview anyone else? I say incompetent very leniently, more like collusion.

    Do you honestly think McBride and Stewart call all the shots? Do you know who run the Fed, who the executives and directors are?
     
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  4. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    I’d describe a hire that delivers two regional trophies and gets out of a WC group where all four teams are ranked in the top 20 as competent.
     
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  5. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which coach who isn't cognitively challenged plays the same way no matter which team they manage? Is there such a person? I don't think Bento is cognitively challenged.
     
  6. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Jose Mourinho… I know he’d been mentioned before but I’d be curious to see what he’s do with this group of players. I think he is gettable too
     
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  7. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    I'd really like a foreign manager for next time around.
     
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  8. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the finest Japanese cuisine
     
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  9. whitecloud

    whitecloud Member+

    Jan 25, 2009
    Gulf Shores, AL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Experience is overrated for national team coaches. There have been lots of good national team performances from coaches with limited or unsuccessful head coaching experience.
     
  10. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Zidane won three Champions League in his first real coaching job. And that was in club football, of course.
     
  11. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He’s so terrible at managing player relations though. That’s my concern with him.
     
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  12. Rezelby

    Rezelby Member

    Aug 1, 2010
    A JV federation would keep Berhalter after quite frankly the bare minimum required to get into the Group stage.

    Let’s not be a JV federation
     
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  13. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah....plus he's a HUGE fan of playing young players.......:rolleyes:
     
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  14. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh lord.

    Part of me thinks it’d be fun and funny, sort of like people who voted for Trump because they thought it’d be funny.

    But if you don’t like GGG for being too conservative, you’re gonna hate Jose. And Jose hates developing young players. I’d rather have GGG or Juergen.
     
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  15. USA-Zebuel

    USA-Zebuel Member+

    Mar 26, 2013
    Club:
    Colón de Santa Fe
    Korean I think. The boxes anyway
     
  16. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    poking my nose in for no discernable reason- dolo has extensive experience as an assistant and at youth/b team levels in germany in addition to his inarguably above average year in mls.

    i absolutely agree thats not the same as being the manager for a year and half in sweden and however many years in colombus (3, 4, 9?) but- the idea that dolo is a complete neophyte is bordering on disingenuous at best.
     
  17. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    so a guy almost as defense first, second and third as gregg who has long sense given up even bothering coaching up young guys? what could possibly go wrong?
     
  18. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

    Chelsea
    Switzerland
    Nov 28, 2010
    Geneva
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    He’s still waaaaayyy more experienced and competent than Berhalter. The two aren’t even in the same league.
     
  19. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    well obviously, who in their right mind would argue against that? id take a yellow lab wearing a whistle and a little hat that says "coach" over a second cycle for gregg.

    that doesnt change what a terrible fit the former great one is with our pool, though.
     
  20. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    I wonder if Berhalter might enjoy coaching another NT in Concacaf if he couldn't get a club gig.
     
  21. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not for this group he isn’t. Great coach (at least, he used to be) but very bad fit.
     
  22. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FYP. Jose is the "special one." The Rock is the Great One. ;):thumbsup:
     
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  23. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jim Curtin?
    David Wagner?
     
  24. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The US job, is likely going to have an interim or placeholder manager just like it did in 2018. Jim Curtin ain't walking through that door next month. If the USSF wasn't willing to buyout Earnie Stewart's contract from the Philly Union to get him in place sooner, they damn sure aren't going to pay to buy out Curtin's contract, which I believe he re-upped for 2 years. Also, Curtin has coached under Stewart before. He's been a much better coach working with Tanner, and has had far less restrictions. A lot of fans are overlooking or not factoring in that the US's playing style is coming down from Stewart.

    The timing of this World Cup, is bad for immediate coaching hires. January is typically a month where club jobs become available.....

    Maybe bring in Juan Carlos Osorio in the interim?

    IF Man City wins the Champions League this year or Next, then maybe the US could convince Pep to take over in 2024. It'd give him a sudo break. He could live in relative anonymity in the US, and the US job doesn't have nearly the pressure of other national team jobs, like Spain, or Mexico.

    That's the other problem for the US in hiring a coach, Mexico needs one too......
     
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  25. JUnionFan

    JUnionFan Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Sep 30, 2020
    I agree on the Stewart thing and I would love an answer to that. Not sure how many people here are aware of such a Union specific thing, but around 2018 under Stewart when Curtin was pressed on why the team has no Plan B, there was some quote from Stewart to the effect of "It's too complicated for professionals to learn a second formation."

    So Stewart seemed to strictly demand a specific formation, I wonder how strictly he demands that from the NT as well?
     
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