World Cup 2022 and the Battle between Confederations

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Iranian Monitor, Nov 30, 2021.

  1. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    I just add: For me teams like Australia, Poland, South Korea were just happy to make it out of the group phase. If the had decent opponents they would have wanted more, but I doubt they really believed they could win. The other matchups are different because the team believes they have what it takes.
     
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  2. Anti Santos

    Anti Santos Member

    Sporting
    Portugal
    Jun 29, 2021
    Actually felt for 45 minutes Poland today tried to play football, but as soon France scored and with more space to run for Mbappe it was goodbye.
     
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  3. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    Australia also tried and were actually closest so far to an upset!

    Poland and Senegal both gave up today after going 2:0 down. Senegal mentally never recovered from the end of first half. Especially second Senegal goal was easily preventable.
     
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  4. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    FIFA Points Ranking after 52 games.
    If 2 points per win and 1 point per draw were given.

    CONMEBOL: 16/4 = 4.00
    UEFA: 47/13 = 3.62
    CAF: 17/5 = 3.40
    AFC: 15/6 = 2.50
    CONCACAF: 9/4 = 2.25
     
  5. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Argentina
    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    CONMEBOL 2/2 to quarters
     
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  6. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    To be fair CONMEBOL got 2 of the 3 weakest teams to make it out of the group.
     
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  7. Anti Santos

    Anti Santos Member

    Sporting
    Portugal
    Jun 29, 2021
    Let's face it even the FIFA rankings who sometimes don't tell the whole truth matchup with Brazil or Argentina on the last 8. It's not a big deal.
     
  8. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    FIFA Points Ranking after 54 games.
    If 2 points per win and 1 point per draw were given.

    CONMEBOL: 18/4 = 4.50
    UEFA: 48/13 = 3.69
    CAF: 17/5 = 3.40
    AFC: 16/6 = 2.67
    CONCACAF: 9/4 = 2.25
     
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  9. Kamtedrejt

    Kamtedrejt Member+

    Internazionale Milano
    Albania
    Mar 14, 2017
    Hamburg
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Albania
    Yet CONMEBOL's decline has become pretty much evident.
     
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  10. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    Argentina and Brazil are always expected to make at least the final 8. Any less would be a failure by their books.
     
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  11. Cosmin10

    Cosmin10 Member

    Feb 28, 2020
    Ibiza
    But how could they be expected to make it this time around? They weren’t “tested” in the qualifiers…
     
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  12. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    #912 bigsoccertst1, Dec 5, 2022
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2022
    Theoretically, 4 teams of the same confederation can be eliminated in group phase with 6 points each, thus achieving a 6.00 ranking.

    How does UEFA earn full average points when 50% of QFs are between UEFA teams?
     
  13. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    The same qualifiers that both ARG and BRA refused to play so each could artificially extend their undefeated runs?

    That worked like a charm for ARG by the way.
     
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  14. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Where are those who said the quarter finals will be all UEFA and Conmebol ?

    I called this one too.
     
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  15. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    I hoped for Senegal, but they were too battered heading into it, but this is the match up I felt would go for CAF.
     
  16. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Many landmarks past for Africa.

    1.First African team to win group with 7 points. (Most points ever)
    2. First time 2 2nd rounds along with a quarter final appearance.
    3. First time all African teams won a game
    4. Brazil, France, (former champs) beaten by African team,
    5. First time Africa beat a big team in the knockout rounds (joining only S. Korea among ROW teams)
    6. First time nobody has scored on African team (First round and 2nd round)
     
  17. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Argentina
    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    is not that easy to get to quarters, even when you are favourite. This was proven today.
     
  18. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    Sure, but everyone expects them to a) win their group, b) get a relatively easy opponent in the 1/8 final. They did both, albeit Argentina struggled more.
     
  19. svelten

    svelten Member

    N/A
    Jun 22, 2009
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Could've really been 2 non-Euro/South American teams if not for a coin toss skills competition. I'm glad one of the coin tosses went against Europe vs ROW for once...

    Morocco gonna need every bit of their impressive defensive acumen against this Portuguese side. Hope they can stifle them on Saturday...
     
  20. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    To be honest though neither penalties in the 1/8 final were a coin toss. One side was head and shoulders over the other in the shoot out.

    9 times out of 10 Morocco and Croatia win those shootouts.
     
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  21. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Penalties virtually only way this particular Morocco team beats Spain.
     
  22. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    Group phase, 2022 WC: CAN 1 - MAR 2

    Congrats to Morocco. It was about time that a CAF team progressed in knockout rounds.

    Imagine if 2030 WC were hosted in Africa, with this level of competitive CAF teams.
     
  23. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

    Jun 21, 2009
    San Francisco North Bay, Bel Marin Keys
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    Given all the support they received, Qatar is probably a better venue for Morocco and other North African teams than a sub-Saharan location would be. It's really too bad for Algeria they fell short at the very last qualifying moment.
     
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  24. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    Nobody scored on them. That was an own goal.
     
  25. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    My op to start this thread. I thing I nailed a few things and got the one I care about most wrong.

     

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