College Cup Semifinals

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  1. gauchodan

    gauchodan Member+

    Oct 18, 2016
    December 9, 2022
    Cary, NC
    Times TBD

    Pittsburgh vs. (13) Indiana
    Creighton vs. (3) Syracuse
     
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  2. gauchodan

    gauchodan Member+

    Oct 18, 2016
    6:00 pm EST: Creighton vs. (3) Syracuse
    8:30 pm EST: Pittsburgh vs. (13) Indiana
     
  3. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Is this finally Creighton's year?

    This is the Blue Jays sixth trip to the College Cup (nee Final Four) and they've never won a national title. The only other team to make it to 5 FFs without winning a title was UCLA, which went to Final or SF 5 times between 1970-84 before winning it all on its sixth try in 85.

    Clemson and Michigan State both won on their fifth try while Army made four in a row without winning a title back in the early 60s.
     
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  4. BigRedFootie

    BigRedFootie Member+

    Jan 31, 2003
    B-town
    Weird - there aren't any tickets available for the Friday games on the NCAA website - just for the finals.
     
  5. BigRedFootie

    BigRedFootie Member+

    Jan 31, 2003
    B-town
    The Friday tickets are "sold out" (and were sold out on Sat). How can that be when a) teams didn't even know if they'd be there until Sunday and b) there aren't any local teams left?
     
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  6. JayPak

    JayPak Member

    Sep 7, 2013
    This is great info, thank you!

    In only 1 of the previous 5 College Cups did Creighton make it to the final, losing to UConn 2-0 in 2000 after beating Indiana in 3OT in the semi.

    In 1996, 2002, and 2012, Creighton lost in the semi by a single goal, which came in 2OT in 2002. The most heartbreaking elimination was in 2011, when Creighton had the NCAA's best defense of all time. They lost in the semis the only way they possibly could have, a 0-0 draw followed by a PK elimination.

    Not only has Creighton never won the NCAA soccer title, the school has never won a national championship in ANY sport, men's or women's, and has never made a title game appearance other than the 2000 soccer final. Needless to say, a College Cup championship would be cherished by the entire athletic department and fanbase!
     
  7. John Latzy

    John Latzy New Member

    Jul 14, 1999
    Fairfax, VA, USA
    I have no idea how this can be SOLD OUT. Four out of town teams. Including my Pitt Panthers. No way 10,000 ticket packages were sold for this without allowing any fans of the teams playing in to purchase tix. Something definitely strange going on here. No tickets are on any of the secondary markets either.
     
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  8. BigRedFootie

    BigRedFootie Member+

    Jan 31, 2003
    B-town
    We've been wondering the same thing. But in the words of one of my colleagues, "if it can be screwed up the NCAA will do it. "
     
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  9. VASoccer75

    VASoccer75 Member

    Oct 28, 2015
    As with many college cups in Cary(except covid season), There is a youth event that same weekend in Raleigh run by NCFC. They used to give tickets to the players (to entice parents to purchase tickets - not sure this is the same now). Don’t think it ever affected tickets for traveling fans in the past though?
     
  10. collegesoccer

    collegesoccer Member+

    Apr 11, 2005
    ... and the kids don't usually go to the game after having to play all during the day. I'd be very surprised if they weren't selling tickets at the complex for "standing room" knowing that plenty of seats will be available.
     
  11. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    I find this kind of amazing for the ACC - since having it's streak of 17 straight seasons with at least one conference member making the College Cup broken in 2018, the ACC has responded with 8 College Cup appearances in 4 years. In this era of fewer pro prospects playing college soccer, for the ACC to maintain its dominance seems even more surprising. I really thought it would result in more parity and the conference being less dominant.

    2022 - Pitt, Syracuse
    2021 - Clemson, Notre Dame
    2020* - North Carolina, Pitt
    2019 - Virginia, Wake Forest
    2018 - None
    2017 - North Carolina
    2016 - North Carolina, Wake Forest
    2015 - Clemson, Syracuse
    2014 - Virginia
    2013 - Maryland, Notre Dame, Virginia
    2012 - Maryland
    2011 - North Carolina
    2010 - North Carolina
    2009 - North Carolina, Virginia, Wake Forest
    2008 - Maryland, North Carolina, Wake Forest
    2007 - Virginia Tech, Wake Forest
    2006 - Virginia, Wake Forest
    2005 - Clemson, Maryland
    2004 - Duke, Maryland
    2003 - Maryland
    2002 - Maryland
    2001 - North Carolina
     
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  12. MySonsPlay

    MySonsPlay Member

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Oct 10, 2017
    As always great post and informative.

    College athletics is about coaching.
     
  13. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000
    Congrats - I have been following Creighton (since the BE Tourney) and they have put together a pretty remarkable string of come-behind wins. Nicely done.
     
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  14. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000
    I would say, recruiting. I find coaches become a lot smarter coaching more gifted players.
     
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  15. MySonsPlay

    MySonsPlay Member

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Oct 10, 2017
    Good coaching does the recruiting. The college sporting communities are relatively small worlds, word gets around. There are a lot of good recruiters, (car salesman), but those that can coach ultimately get top players. Current players, if happy, are also the best recruiters.
     
  16. BigRedFootie

    BigRedFootie Member+

    Jan 31, 2003
    B-town
    We just found out that IU's "total allotment" of tickets is 250. That means there are 9,000 seats unaccounted for, kids' games or no. I suspect fraud.
     
  17. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let’s go Creighton Bluejays!!!

    Go Big East Conference!!!
    (Did I get the spelling right on that?)
     
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  18. collegesoccer

    collegesoccer Member+

    Apr 11, 2005
     
  19. collegesoccer

    collegesoccer Member+

    Apr 11, 2005
    The ACC has become an international conference like many others. Syracuse and Pitt are driven by their international players so they are recruiting older and more experienced players since many of the younger US players are signing pro. Like the "one and done" in basketball, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Creighton is split about 50/50 but their top scorers are American including a former part-time player with 22 goals (kudos on player development to coaches and player). IU is the only team in the final that is all-American in their starting lineup and most of their reserves.
     
  20. BigRedFootie

    BigRedFootie Member+

    Jan 31, 2003
    B-town
    Of course, it's not just the ACC. Of the teams IU played in the NCAA tourney thus far, SLU had a mere 6 internationals on their squad and UNCG had 8 internationals starting. Then there's Marshall with 18 internationals. Pitt (ACC), who we play in the semis, has 14 internationals on their squad. The B1G is not immune - OSU has recently taken a bite of the apple with 5 or 6 internationals.
     
  21. JayPak

    JayPak Member

    Sep 7, 2013
    Yes, Bluejays is one word, unlike the Toronto Blue Jays baseball team.
    And yes, you spelled Big East right, too. :)

    Welcome, Akron, to the Big East! Creighton fans are thrilled the Zips are joining the conference and bringing their strong tradition, fanbase, and commitment to soccer. We are a little sad that we will no longer be playing Georgetown every season, though, with the split into divisions.
     
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  22. nick p

    nick p Member+

    Jul 11, 2009
    Baltimore Maryland
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Creighton has never won a national championship in any sport But the 2000 Bluejays men’s soccer team came the closest
     
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  23. CANPRO

    CANPRO Member+

    Dec 23, 2002
    Who are the big players to watch?
     
  24. AlextheRef

    AlextheRef Member

    Jun 29, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Stats-wise, looks like it's a toss up between Indiana #7 Karsen Henderlong (6'5", 195lbs), Pitt #32 Andrew Noel (6'5", 197lbs), and Syracuse #19 Buster Sjoberg (6'5", 195lbs). ;)

    In all seriousness Indiana's attack tends to run through #18 Ryan Wittenbrink. He's good on set pieces and the team tends to win when he plays well. #5 Daniel Munie is a well-rated defender.

    Pitt's #8 Valentin Noel is all-Region and clearly the leading scorer (11 goals). #21 Filip Mirkovic has 12 assists and is similarly all-Region.

    Creighton #13 Duncan McGuire can't stop scoring on this run the Bluejays are on. He has 22 goals and is a Mac Herrmann semifinalist. #8 Charles Auguste is a strong defensive center mid who will likely have an opportunity at the professional level.

    Syracuse has quite a few all-Region players. #14 Levonte Johnson (10G, 6A) is a Mac Hermann semifinalist. #10 Nathan Opoku (9G, 6A) is also first team all-Region.

    I'm probably missing a few players, especially defenders...so anyone feel free to supplement my post with more information.
     
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  25. gauchodan

    gauchodan Member+

    Oct 18, 2016
    NCAA College Cup
    Semifinals, Cary, NC

    (3) Syracuse 3, Creighton 2 -- Creighton eliminated
    (13) Indiana 2, Pittsburgh 0 -- Pittsburgh eliminated
     

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