Pre-match: World Cup 2022 - Opponent news - Non-Brazilian teams thread

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  1. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    France would be a tough match for us but they have weakness that we can also cause them problems as well. Their defense is shaky and their midfield is not built for possession/build up play but counter attacking.

    I also doubt teams will bomb their fullbacks forward consistently against Brazil
     
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  2. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    I don't want to agree with you, but the facts don't care about what I want to do.
     
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  3. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    I didn't watch the match at all. So, I had to rely on post-match reports. In the Brazilian sports media, some articles said Argentina dominated the match and was the rightful winner. Others said that while Argentina did play better and did indeed deserve to advance, that its domination was deceptive - Australia played good defense and almost drew. I do wonder whether advocates of the latter view are taking into consideration the fact that Argentina had a number of close calls whereby a couple of inches in the other direction would have resulted in goals rather than in close calls.

    But if Australia came close to drawing, this would indicate that while talented in offense, Argentina is quite lesser in defense. After all, the second Argentine goal resulted from a terrible error by the Australian defense.

    Netherlands vs. Argentina is going to be good. There has been a winner within 90 minutes when these two met in the World Cup twice; other times, it was either a victory in overtime or a victory via PKs... or a goalless group stage draw.


    Given you're German and therefore unbiased (I would hope), what are the reasons which bring you to the assessment that the Netherlands will eliminate Argentina? A non-South American viewpoint would definitely be welcome.
     
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  4. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    In summary, Argentina didn't really create scoring chances until the game got stretched after Australia scored their goal. They found a goal in the 1st half and forced a GK mistake with good pressure for the 2nd. But they struggled to create chances until Australia tried to push for a tie and left themselves exposed.

    The blueprint to stop Argentina is not very complicated. You play a low block, crowd the middle and leave the wings open. They struggle to create if well executed. Keep an eye on Messi on those runs to the top / in the box when the ball goes to the wing. You can also implement a mid block crowding the middle as well if you have decently fast defenders. Their only fast player is Di Maria.

    They often play well enough against us because we don't play too defensively against them. Dunga's team would still murder this Argentina IMO.
     
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  5. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    Thanks for that summary.

    Good points on how to play vs. Argentina. I wonder how well the Netherlands will do. They are definitely going to be the strongest opponent Argentina has had in this tournament, not the least as Van Gaal is the most experienced manager who will show up in their way so far.

    Dunga's Brazil... mentioning the Dunga era (including post-2014) piqued my curiosity. Out of the archives: Brazil played Argentina six times under Dunga. 4 wins and 2 draws. 12 goals scored, 2 goals allowed.

    If Elano hadn’t gotten injured, if Kaká’s shot in the first half against the Dutch had gone in... oh well. Dunga created a dominant Brazil, at least between 2006 and 2010. Those were amazing numbers – yet Tite has outdone them.

    I hope Tite’s successor has even better numbers, although right now, what I most want is the Hexa.
     
  6. Estuardo A. Lopez

    Jul 9, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I'm not into gloom and doom, so I'm going to say that if Neymar comes back in decent form and there are no more major injuries then I'll be OK with Brazil's chances in a hypothetical final against France.
    Remember, Brazil still has S Korea, Japan/Croatia and Netherlands/ Argentina and France will most likely have to go through England and Spain before the final. Nothing is decided.
     
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  7. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    RIO AND CHICAGO
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    At the Globe Pub Chicago. Line a block long but I walk right in.
    England vs Senegal.

    I REALLY DO NOT WANT TO MEET FRANCE !! NOTHING BUT FUKING NIGHTMARES FROM PAST LOSSES AND ELIMINATIONS NOT TO MENTION 1998.
     
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  8. ripalino

    ripalino Member

    Feb 26, 2013
    Sao Paulo
    Club:
    Fluminense Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I still remember 1998. I just passed out of college. I was so sure about our victory. But _____
     
  9. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    Raheem Sterling will not play for England vs. Senegal due to unspecified family-related reasons.
     
  10. Estuardo A. Lopez

    Jul 9, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I still remember what happened Eons and Eons ago (it happened sometime last month, I think) when Brazil played Serbia. The way Brazil played in that game is the way to win a championship. I will take that Brazil over France any day of the week....
     
  11. Estuardo A. Lopez

    Jul 9, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    The thing about defense wins championships is true, but an equally true statement is that a football game is won in the midfield. Brazil, with Casemiro commanding the middle, will defeat any of the remaining teams.
     
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  12. ripalino

    ripalino Member

    Feb 26, 2013
    Sao Paulo
    Club:
    Fluminense Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    True but the fullbacks are not as strong compared to the rest of the side.
    Danilo will have to deal with Mbappe's speed. Big responsibility for him
     
  13. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    We played solid sides in Swiss and Serbia ... but we haven't had players who can run at this midfield / defense. So while we did well controlling those games, the Swiss and Serbs were pretty slow.
     
  14. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    Barring something very unusual, Senegal is done. Four quarterfinalists; all have been to the final and three have won it at least once.

    If Brazil and Croatia advance tomorrow and Spain does the same on Tuesday, the quarterfinal will have 7 teams who have reached the final.
     
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  15. manimal

    manimal Member

    Dec 23, 2018
    What do you guys think about England France? England looked very good and sharp yesterday despite a few unconcentrations. I could see france struggling the way they played before.... If they remain to be passive and not press well..... I could see England win..... What do you think???
     
  16. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Japan up 1 x 0 at HT.
     
  17. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    England were clinical and looked comfortable after they scored the 1st goal. Bellingham is a game changer and Foden did well on the left. But they have a tendency to shrink against big teams.

    It's gonna be a good match. My guess is one of the finalists will come from the winner of this game.
     
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  18. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    England looked sloppy vs Senegal in the first half. They have had more of those moments this tournament than France has had. They are going to need to be sharper than that to beat France.
     
  19. ripalino

    ripalino Member

    Feb 26, 2013
    Sao Paulo
    Club:
    Fluminense Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Don't write off Spain
     
  20. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Morocco is beating them . :D
     
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  21. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Croatia leveled the game with a nice header.

    1 x 1
     
  22. ripalino

    ripalino Member

    Feb 26, 2013
    Sao Paulo
    Club:
    Fluminense Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    If it goes to a TB I say Croatia will win.
     
  23. Brasitusa

    Brasitusa Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    May 14, 2014
    Club:
    New York City FC
    I like your recipe to beat France, but does Tite know it? He doesn't seem very tactically aware.
     
  24. Brasitusa

    Brasitusa Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    May 14, 2014
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Croatia has advanced.
     
  25. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    4 awful pens from Japan
     
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