Match 49: Netherlands (A1) vs USA (B2)

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  1. tripwire

    tripwire Member+

    Sep 23, 2012
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    They did show more gears today, but I think their tactics remain the same from what we have seen. That Ecuador game was bad, really bad.

    They have the quality, but will their tactics match it as the tournament gets more difficult.
     
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  2. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Yeah tactics are definitely the same but that's the LVG way. He's not changing. It's not pleasant to watch but it definitely works. The pragmatism works for them. I think if Argentina goes through, they will struggle with the Dutch ways
     
  3. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    They may have overcompensated the Senegal win and went into cruise control. Ecuador surprised them and they were in the wrong spot mentally expecting an easy game.
     
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  4. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    a Brazil/Holland game would be great
     
  5. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    Looking at the paths I think this is what will happen. Brazil is heads above anyone in their quadrant and Holland just looks too good for Argentina (but of course this could happen).

    The other bracket is much more unpredictable.
     
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  6. MrOranjeBal

    MrOranjeBal Member

    Apr 7, 2009
    Club:
    AZ
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    That aged well...
     
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  7. Mr Globe

    Mr Globe Member

    Dec 21, 2015
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    What a pathetic display by CONCACAF. 3 wins in 13 matches, 10 goals for & 24 against, 75% of teams out in the group stage and everyone out by the R16. Safe to say it's currently the weakest confederation in the world.
     
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  8. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
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  9. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Aaaand it went about as well as I thought it would once the Dutch scored. Uphill from there.

    Congrats to all the Holland fans here. Your team was better organized and more opportunistic.
     
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  10. Hexa

    Hexa Member+

    May 21, 2010
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    Good game to start the knockout stage. Best NED game so far; solid defense and extremely efficient attack. First Half NED had 5 shots, 2 shots on goal and 2 goals!

    First NED goal was pure class; among the most beautiful of this Cup. Qatar 2022 is turning into a WC we all will remember. Lots of questions about human rights and workers right, true. But the infrastructure and play have been very good. Lots of upsets and fantastic goals.

    US leaves the cup with heads high IMO; Best team from C'CAF by a mile. The first half they took the game to NED with high intensity and were very accurate on passing (several one touch build up passing). Unlucky to not have scored. The first two NED goals were world class not many team would be able to defend them. The only thing US lacked in the first half was experience.

    Second half with many substitution saw a dip in quality; US still isn't deep enough to maintain first team quality. US of A can look forward to 2026.
     
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  11. Felix Herve Caroll

    Jun 1, 2015
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Ivory Coast




     
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  12. LevskiSofia

    LevskiSofia Member

    Nov 19, 2008
    This is if you don't count OFC that shouldn't even exist.
     
  13. MrOranjeBal

    MrOranjeBal Member

    Apr 7, 2009
    Club:
    AZ
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    That's what they do, soak up pressure. And then exploit space with speed and technique.
     
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  14. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And yet Concacaf won all 3 matchups against AFC opponents...
     
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  15. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    Shame they basically couldn't anyone else!
     
  16. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    As a Guardian reporter aptly put it, The Netherlands had more of a "professional edge" than the U.S. You could see it in the match. The Dutch futzed away at least 2/3 promising opportunities to score the 3rd goal earlish in the 2nd half. Nice tourney by the U.S. but I feel like I've been hearing Alexi Lalas bellow about the U.S. showing progress for at least 20 years. They are, but it's been slow.
     
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  17. I don't get it.
    What's up with the t-shirt?
     
  18. tripwire

    tripwire Member+

    Sep 23, 2012
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
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  19. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    personally think Colombia could play like this too and it would work, I don't personally have a problem with it but as a neutral I understand

    @HomietheClown
     
  20. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    random question here but do you think Dest would have made this dutch squad? Must have been kinda weird for him to play the country he was born in
     
  21. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was a good effort by my USA team. I watched the game at Cheesecake Factory (seriously) at a mall while waiting to attend the Argentina v Australia game. Yeah, this is Qatar so 2 of the 8 stadiums are literally attached to shopping centers. Anyway, I actually think we could have won this tournament if we'd just had a world class goalkeeper, an elite back 4, a handful of ballon do'r winning-caliber midfielders, and a front 3 of Mbappe, Messi, and Ronaldo at their peak + a Champions League winning manager and about half a dozen equally great substitutes and yeah, I think we could have won this match and maybe the whole thing...

    Anyway, congrats to the Netherlands. The quarterfinal vs Argentina is going to one hell of a game. When people ask me who I think is going to win this, I say Brazil or France. But when I think about who I'd like to win it, I always say Messi or a new champion. So Holland is definitely in that category, as of course is Portugal.

    For USA the round of 16 was always where I saw us finishing. Disappointed we only won 1 game and scored only 3 goals but it was a learning experience all in all. Even if we'd won this, with Argentina and potentially Brazil awaiting later it was only a matter of time. All in all, I'd say our tournament was....

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  22. Before their fifth knockout appearance at football's most prestigious international tournament, Biden sent a message of good luck to the national team on social media. After clever editing made it look as though the president had caught a ball launched by midfielder Tyler Adams, he said: "It's called soccer! Go USA. You guys can do it."

    In response to the video, Dutch PM Rutte couldn't resist a cheeky dig as he wrote on Twitter: "Sorry Joe, football won."
     
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  23. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    Might very well make the roster but would not start for the Dutch.
     
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