Youth Yanks Abroad, ‘01-‘04 YOBs: 2022-23 Thread

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    Monaco sounds like a great option for him.

     
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    Is it only me or does anyone else think a loan move to MLS would benefit KDLF to get back on track?
     
  14. butters59

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    Not me. A subpar MLS loan and he goes down like a rock. With European benches he will be sliding slowly.
     
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    I was thinking that, but if he could have a successful loan somewhere in Europe I think that’d be better.

    Once you join MLS as a highly regarded player that was playing in another country, I think that hurts your career. It’s usually the opposite with our players. They start in MLS and then leave. I think it hurts the careers of players who have interest in the top leagues to do a stint in MLS.
     
  17. Dave Marino-Nachison

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    That may have been the case years ago, and certainly individual situations are all different, but at least at this moment MLS players seem to be evaluated far more charitably than they once were by the global marketplace. (João Moutinho is going to Serie A based pretty much entirely on his play in the league; nobody really blinks anymore.)

    With Konrad's pedigree, a productive MLS season at 21/22 probably gets his pro career, setting aside his MNT aspirations, right back on track, at least for the next stage. Surely Miami talks to his agent every day (just a guess). Of course if he bombs, maybe you'd rather bomb somewhere where you get paid more? I dunno.
     
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    It’s not that there aren’t examples of success or it’s disqualifying, but I still don’t think a stint in MLS compared to a stint in Belgium or Netherlands or Portugal looks good on the CV to clubs, if he was to eventually work his way back up the ladder. I don’t think it’d look good either if he played a season or two in Brazil, Argentina, or Mexico either, so it’s not only an MLS thing. I think once you are already established with interest on the European continent, leaving for the Western Hemisphere doesn’t help to increase your market.
     
  19. Dave Marino-Nachison

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    I mean, it might very well not be optimal in a broad theoretical sense. I just don't think it's a career killer generally, and almost certainly not for guys with Barcelona on their resumes. I have no idea what his actual options are but I guess he'll go where he's wanted. He needs a good season somewhere.
     
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    Konrad needs to pick a team where he can simultaneous work on his weaknesses but also get playing time because of his strength.

    The latter is a challenge. His big asset is very narrowly defined -- one on one moves to the endline and crossing in. He's skilled, but his work rate, off ball movement and apparently work ethic are pretty questionable.

    That last one's a killer, and it's pretty damn meaningless the rest of this unless it changes.

    MLS seems like exactly the WRONG league for him. We run here, and we run a lot. Gonzalo Higuain got benched for not running and working for a crappy team, how the hell is Konrad getting time?

    How many teams does Konrad get on the field for? Half the league plays in a way he can't. And a good portion of the remainder are running out far better players.

    I'm sure we can find some teams that he can play for, but it just doesn't feel like a good fit. I think people will Barca, etc., but I think if he comes to MLS, there's just a really good chance he ends up on a bench somewhere. He's not skilled enough to actually be an offensive focal point on most of these teams and he seems unwilling to do the other parts of the game that role players require.

    Best case would sticking on a bad team or as a situational guy on a defensive/underspending team. Like a Jonathon Lewis role on Colorado. I think he can be better than Lewis in being Lewis ... round out his game and maybe be a better Diego Fagundez in hopefully not so long a time. (I know people are going to find this insulting, so I'm not saying career, I'm saying numbers ... best case is to revive himself as a high assist winger.)

    Worst case is he comes in, big times it, won't do any dirty work, gets benched and disappears.

    I vote Belgium. Still a high level, much slower league. More skill based.
     
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    I can't believe he started for us in El Salvador. :eek:
     
  22. jeff_adams

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    San Jose Earthquakes went hard after Matthew Hoppe on a loan. Not saying Konrad is exactly like Hoppe but San Jose plays a Barcelona style possession game and has a need of creative attacking from the wide positions. With Luchi Gonzalez’s ties to the USSF, I can see Konrad interested if he gets assurances of playing time.
     
  23. gogorath

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    I think you'd be insane to assure him of PT, frankly, but if Luchi is fully going that route, I could see it.

    That said, I've seen Luchi coach, and if he doesn't defend, he won't play.
     
  24. butters59

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    He was defending a lot with the NT.
     
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