US-Iran, the midfield

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  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tyler Adams was world class. Weston struggled. Musah doesn't have 90 minutes in him. That late foul he committed was a tired player's foul.
     
  2. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    America's midfielders (and also Dest) were superb.
     
  3. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MMA rides again, but they are tired. Put them all in ice baths til saturday
     
  4. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    The MMA midfield is awesome.

    It has speed, it has strength, it has smarts, it has self-control.

    Lightning in a bottle, those three understand each other so well.

    PS: Tyler Adams is the smartest player we've had since Donovan.
     
  5. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    The US has half a dozen very good players. Adams, McKennie, Pulisic, Dest, and Musah have been superb. Weah has his own strengths too. Upfront the US team is limited and its CBs are also a class below, but by being able to pass the ball around so accurately, they deny the opponent the opportunity to test its defense.
     
  6. Jumbalaya

    Jumbalaya Member+

    Apr 27, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Sunderland AFC
    That Mckennie pass to Dest... to set up the first goal (chefs kiss)
     
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  7. usfootball20

    usfootball20 Member+

    May 15, 2012
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lol ok bud. Ream is a class below what?
     
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  8. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Your midfielders.
     
  9. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    MMA was magnificent. Best version of McKennie, same old Tyler and Musah just getting better and better. Acosta coming in scares me. We lose a lot when McKennie goes out and he comes in.
     
  10. Pickles

    Pickles Member

    Jun 4, 2014
    We'd be so toast without Adams. Musah worked really hard and did well. McKennie a little off the pace but he made the key pass of the game. Acosta mostly invisible.
     
  11. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MMA were huge today. Once Weston came off, it was as if we were playing with 10.
     
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  12. Mr Martin

    Mr Martin Member+

    Jun 12, 2002
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This.
     
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  13. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    McKennie - 8
    Adams - 8
    Musah - 8
     
  14. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We lost the plot at the end but were great for 45 and good for 60.

    Aaronson good as a sub.

    Musah was hanging on by a thread at the end.

    Adams is amazing.

    Acosta not so much.
     
  15. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    The MMA are what they thought they were. And that's a very very good thing.

    McKennie seemed to be taking it a bit easy out there. He's clearly not 100%. Perfect pass on the goal. That was a dime.

    Musah is gassed. Absolutely gassed. Rest up young warrior, game in 3 days and you are going 90.

    You know who isn't gassed. Tyler Adams. This guy. Oh, Captain my Captain. How about that pass on the play Weah & Sargent F'd up? If he does that more, he won't be a Leeds for much longer.

    Acosta is like a surrender. In this case with Mckennie not fit, you kind of had to do it. But blech, hate just giving the dealer your chips.
     
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  16. shooter6065

    shooter6065 Member

    Nov 16, 2000
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Our midfield has absolutely strangled 3 teams in a row including 2 European teams. The same thing will happen on Saturday as you will see Frankie De Jong disappear like a fart in the wind.
     
  17. shooter6065

    shooter6065 Member

    Nov 16, 2000
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Our midfield combined with our backline structure makes it difficult to generate chances on us. Your team created about as much as England and Wales did. I don't know how far this midfield can take us but I suspect we will run out gas in a game or two.
     
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  18. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kicked ass, took names.

    For the 2nd game in a row.

    For all they sometimes lack in playmaking, Weston's chip to Dest was sublime.

    Musah is so much a better player at 20 than he was at 19.....:cool:
     
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  19. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  20. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I was going to say this was Adams' best game todate. The running he did was invaluable. Oddly enough, I thought Musah's game was less than his previous ones but fotmob rated him highest of all USA players so he was certainly active which fotmob tends to reward.

    Berhalter had McKennie play more withdrawn and Musah more advanced which is the opposite of previous outings. Mckennie was his usual easy mark to dribble by and lost the ball a lot but had the hockey assist on the long diagonal pass. Looks like that is becoming his best weapon as something similar provided him with his only assist to the striker at Juve this season. The only other guy who does that well is Arriola. He gets that opportunity at Juve because they play him wide and use Locatelli and Rabiot centrally.
     
  21. shooter6065

    shooter6065 Member

    Nov 16, 2000
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I have watched all these teams and it looks like we have one of the best midfields in the tournament
     
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  22. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Its okay bro......you can say it. We have THE best midfield in the tournament.
     
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  23. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    The US did very well executing some very fine plays, including on the goal and disallowed goal. But you have to be blind to imagine that was against a low block. Just look where Iran's defensive line is set in that video!

    While Iranian fans and some pundits are lambasting Queiroz for the "defensive posture" we took in the first half, the truth is we didn't. Iran was simply outplayed and outclassed in the first half. Similarly, it wasn't the US that ceded possession to Iran in the 2nd half; it was Iran that won that possession by winning individual duels and making fewer errand passes. It was only after the Zimmerman substitution that the US pulled back and used a low block. Even then, the US press was still not low.

    Page 4 below (Phases of Play) shows the tactical posture of the two teams relating to pressing and blocking.

    https://www.fifatrainingcentre.com/media/native/world-cup-2022/report_133028.pdf
     
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  24. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    This midfield reminds me of the Denver Broncos’ No Fly Zone defense that swamped the Carolina Panthers in the Super Bowl. They just take all of the space and eat everything up. It’s a slog to get through the midfield with the ball, and when they have the ball they are physical, skilled, and direct.

    I don’t recall seeing a midfield similar to this. It’s a very American style of play similar to what we value in our other major team sports: physical dominance, skill, athleticism, and offensive prowess. Everyone’s watching, and they see something they like and identify with. Kudos to Berhalther, who when he started out said he wanted to build a style of play that was American, and I think that the core of that is with MMA.
     
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  25. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    It's like the early 2000s Miami Hurricanes linebacking corp with DJ Williams and Johnathon Vilma. Just everywhere.
     

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