Match #39 - Poland v. Argentina

Discussion in 'Group C - Argentina, Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Poland' started by soccernutter, Nov 2, 2022.

  1. Anti Santos

    Anti Santos Member

    Sporting
    Portugal
    Jun 29, 2021
    Poland had to come via playoff, Argentina is obviously favourite, Poland isn't expected to win the WC. But the last 4 WC were won by European sides.
     
  2. reckless_mf

    reckless_mf Member

    Nov 15, 2009
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    No point sending endless crosses into the box when all of your attackers are midgets.

    Argentina are lacking a true centre forward.
     
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  3. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    The laws are very black and white in situations like those. If there's contact and the ball is still in play, its a penalty AFAIK. That said, the Laws probably need a rethink for situations like this.
     
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  4. Bazi

    Bazi Member+

    Jan 15, 2009
    Wuerzburg (Germany)
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I have seen penalties given for this exact thing outside the 5 yard box. It is rare and harsh but I have seen it.

    Never in my three decades and counting have I seen that given inside the goalkeeper's box.
     
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  5. Anti Santos

    Anti Santos Member

    Sporting
    Portugal
    Jun 29, 2021
    Poland deserves to lose based on how they are presenting themselves, Mexico and Saudi Arabia never went into their games with such a low block.
     
  6. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    This competition has a few of them. Ronaldo's penalty an obvious contender.
     
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  7. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    Messi with two gift penalties in the torunament.
     
  8. Anti Santos

    Anti Santos Member

    Sporting
    Portugal
    Jun 29, 2021
    It was a penalty, better complain about the dumb Ghana defender action.
     
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  9. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    I've seen them given all the time, but I dont agree with it at all.

    If the player gets taken out when he CLEARLY doesn't have possession of the ball it should never be a PK.

    If I were FIFA I would radically alter the PK rules.

    I think fouls in the box that don't prevent a clear chance should be free kicks and not PKs.

    PKs are just cheap unless a clear chance was stopped by a foul.
     
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  10. tripwire

    tripwire Member+

    Sep 23, 2012
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Some people are saying touching an eyelash after the ball is gone is a PK?

    You have to be kidding.
     
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  11. Mean Machine

    Mean Machine Member+

    May 23, 2018
    What’s the record?

    I’m curious about Ochoa vs Brazil and the Netherlands in 2014?
     
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  12. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    How other teams played in previous matches is irrelevant within the context of what is at stake for Poland. It's more than evident that Poland has been deployed in such a way to avoid losing rather than to seek a win. However, a draw is sufficient for Poland to reach the round of 16. Mexico and Saudi Arabia cannot afford to draw their match, however, for such a result will send them both home.

    More than avoiding defeat, Argentina needs Saudi Arabia not to win its match. Should the Saudis open the scoreboard, the pressure on Argentina to defeat Poland will only increase, and drastically so. Poland will be content simply to avoid defeat regardless of whether Saudi Arabia wins, loses, or draws.
     
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  13. Bazi

    Bazi Member+

    Jan 15, 2009
    Wuerzburg (Germany)
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Call me old-fashioned and outdated but the fact we only get to see a virtual recreation of offsides situations nowadays is just mad.

    At the very least show me both the real and virtual angle.

    There's a reason I watch less and less football anymore. This is just an atrocious viewing experience in my opinion.
     
  14. Anti Santos

    Anti Santos Member

    Sporting
    Portugal
    Jun 29, 2021
    Don't have the data to back it, but Koncilia from Austria in 82 must be on top of those stats.
     
  15. Non-dairy Creamer

    Feb 28, 2007
    crooked FIFA, that's not a penalty.

    His pinkie finger glazed Messi's forehead , that's all. Not a PK,

    the ball was still in play? for like 1/8th of a second heading to row Z.

    FIFA wants Messi and Arg. in the round of 16 that's for sure.

    and shame on Messi rolling around like he was poked in the eye, not even close. No Fair Play.
     
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  16. Felix Herve Caroll

    Jun 1, 2015
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Ivory Coast
  17. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
  18. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    In the end it doesn't matter. Let's hope for no more nonsense.
     
  19. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yes, that's why they ruled out all those goals as offside vs. Saudi Arabia, including the one that was later proven to have actually been a valid, onside goal.

    Stop talking out of your ass. Soft penalty, but there isn't this top secret agenda that you conspire about. It's the strange era of VAR where replay reviews result in these questionable calls.
     
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  20. Anti Santos

    Anti Santos Member

    Sporting
    Portugal
    Jun 29, 2021
    With all this Argentina probably will face Australia and good prospects of reaching the last 8.
     
  21. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    With this scoreboard, Brazil and Morocco alone have clean sheets in this tournament.
     
  22. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Poland now have to not lose by 2.
     
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  23. Anti Santos

    Anti Santos Member

    Sporting
    Portugal
    Jun 29, 2021
    With Polland trying to go up the pitch they will be even more exposed than they were.
     
  24. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Mexico 2-0 now
     
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  25. Anti Santos

    Anti Santos Member

    Sporting
    Portugal
    Jun 29, 2021
    Mexico is going to qualify, my prediction here.
     

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