Electric Vehicles discussion (was NJ bans Tesla dealerships)

Well, there's my lack of knowledge of SF hurting me. haha. I thought they were the same bridge. Oops.

 

Don't you have to pay extra to get this?

 

Yes. I believe you have the option to buy it outright, or as a subscription. Also, unless they changed it, it's user based, not car based. So sell your Tesla and you can't recuperate the cost.

 

In 2019 Tesla bought back my first car after almost two years because it had so many problems. They bought it back at the cost of a new one including “full self driving” (which at the time I believe they offered it to me at 2k). On my old one I had not bought it. So it had just been a running joke for us that they gave us the money for it because it wasn’t real anyway. We got a second Tesla in 2021 but did not buy the option (it was then 10k. ).

 

That's a great movie too! Watched it/read it 20 years ago in finance class.

 

That's an unfair take. I don't really have the energy or desire to argue about it, though.

 

Anyone here interested in my DeLorean stock?

 

Only if it is for a good kind of soup I never heard of.

 

I sense sarcasm!

Ps...with Easter just around the corner I'd like to remind you...your chances of being killed by a bunny are pretty low but never zero!

 

Would anyone still remember that car if it wasn't for Back to the Future?

 

Well, it is back FWIW...

 

Thelma and Louise cudda used one of those!

 

The tech is the best part of Tesla, so I'm not sure it is out of line to call them an AI/Tech company. The cars themselves are subpar on the quality standpoint (this is actually true of most EVs right now), but the battery, power management, and infotainment tech is superior to every car company right now and, honestly, Tesla could be rolling in the dough if they licensed their tech to other companies, rather than hording it for themselves.

I'm not sure where you are getting this.. EVs would be at least a decade behind where they are now if it weren't for Tesla. Seriously, Tesla Model S's was the number 1 selling model in the luxury market for several years. There's no way any of the luxury car brands would have started dumping money into EVs if it weren't for Tesla. You can argue "saving the environment" isn't Tesla's goal, but it absolutely is a side effect.

As for robot trucks.. Tesla is, again, the one pushing the market with regards to automation. There's no way that Tesla should be advertising their cars as full self-driving, or making it available to the general public right now, but, again.. Tesla is far ahead the other AI vehicle companies. But, again, Telsa's insistence that THEY make the trucks is the issue here. They should really be licensing it out to the major long haul truck manufacturers.

You just described a majority of EV cars. There are a few smaller EVs, but the vast majority of them, regardless of manufacturer, are large sedans, cross-overs, and SUVs. This is likely going to continue to be the case until people get used charging their cars at home as there is A LOT of range anxiety among non-EV drivers and you need a larger car to get the 200-300 mile range consumers are demanding for EVs.

 

Okay.. So what was the point of your original post then? You just agreed with my post refuting your points in the original post.

 

Normally when you are a test subject you get paid to do so. In this case you are paying for the privilege.

 

That's because most tests require an incentive to get people to sign up. Tesla, on the other hand, has more people wanting to be a beta tester than they actually need.

 

Couple Mos. back I rented a Camry that, unknown to me, had collision detection and lane departure warning system. I almost didn't make it off the lot. Attempting to pass or exiting on hwy is fun if you don't have a firm grasp on the steering wheel. The auto braking when on cruise control is another fun experience. Everyone I've spoken with turns all that crap off toot sweet!

 

The lane departure system on my wife’s odyssey is a nightmare. Turned it off after a day driving it.

 

So what I'm hearing is that you don't use your turn signal when you change lanes.