Post-match: 2022 World Cup, USA-Iran

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Dr. Gamera, Nov 29, 2022.

  1. nbarbour

    nbarbour Member+

    Jun 19, 2006
    Washington DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Champions League talent. AYSO coach. Match was much tighter than it needed to be.
     
  2. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    From a source I know to be reliable (3rd or 4th hand tho), and this is a quote on Pulisic

    “hospital trip is to do an MRI for a potential hernia. Rib x-rays checked out. Groggy but cleared concussion protocol. In “a lot of pain”. They’ll get more details later tonight / tmw.l
     
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  3. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    You find subbing on Zimmerman awful?
     
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  4. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    Thanks, classy post. I hope your team can turn the page to younger guys in support of your star attackers. You've had a great run of 3 tournaments (only 2 bad performances in 9 games), but I imagine you need to inject more youth into the side like El Tri does in our confederation. Unlucky in '18 and '22, you'll be back.
     
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  5. theboogeyman

    theboogeyman Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    For some, there are not guys with the exact same skill set, but there are guys who play the same positions and/or roles.

    Zimmerman should’ve only come on for CCV. Putting him in for an attacker only allowed Iran to control the ball more, which inevitably led to more chances.

    Dest was gassed. Any other RB but Moore would’ve been fine. He’s arguably our 6th or 7th best right back.

    In midfield, Luca is a big drop off from Musah and WM, but he is still much better in possession than Acosta. Had we sat back a little more, but with a less conservative formation, I feel that we almost certainly would’ve scored 1-2 more goals without conceding more chances than we did in the first 75 minutes or so.
     
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  6. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    When I get more on Pulisic I’ll post more
     
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  7. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I'm going to point out that the subbing Acosta on is about where the wheels came off the bus in the midfield on both this game and against Wales.
     
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  8. Jumbalaya

    Jumbalaya Member+

    Apr 27, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Sunderland AFC
    Miles Robinson doesn't get hurt. EPB doesn't get phased out.. JB doesn't get phased out. Does Tim Ream get a look? He's been almost as important as Tyler this WC.
     
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  9. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    Just read this on BBC:

    Iran have been in the World Cup group stages six times - and been eliminated every time.

    Only Scotland (eight) have participated in as many World Cups and never reached the knockout phase.

    Tunisia could also make it zero from six tomorrow if they don't beat France.
     
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  10. bungadiri

    bungadiri Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 25, 2002
    Acnestia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which is my cue to break open the Knob Creek Single Barrel small batch 120 proof my brother in law gave me...
     
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  11. JUnionFan

    JUnionFan Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Sep 30, 2020
    #211 JUnionFan, Nov 29, 2022
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    Really interesting to see the dichotomy between the opinions on Aaronson. I thought he did well when he came on and showed some 10-like ability to create chances for his team mates and create space on the half turn. He is obviously a different type of player than Pulisic, but I counted the ball he sliped through to Sargent for a shot, the nice cut back and cross late in the game just over Acosta and that Moore did nothing with, and then found the ball and Wright for Wrights awful shot late in stoppage time as good moments where he got on the ball and made the right pass quickly.

    I can see the issue him him is that he plays vertically with his passing instead of with his dribble but really Aaronson started the half off well I thought, but once we made more subs and we started to go into a shell thats when his influence went away.
     
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  12. Seanin

    Seanin Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    I think it would have been better for the team’s morale and momentum to go and score a second goal. ‘We scraped through’ is a different vibe from ‘we killed off the game’.

    It’s a concern that some players we now may need to rely on (Reyna, Ferreira) have had very little or no game time.

    In-game management has been puzzling. Wales is not a good team and we invited them back into the match. And we managed to make a poor Iran look dangerous a few times by choosing to defend in our box.

    In general I’m impressed with how this team has performed. Berhalter deserves credit for getting out of the group without a loss or a goal from the run of play. But two goals in three games was a tactical choice I don’t really support.
     
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  13. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    We‘ll never know but there’s a world where Berhalter just saw Reams form in the Prem where he was near the top of the list for high performing center backs and decided he’s just too good to leave home, high line or no
     
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  14. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    youre right........its McCallan 18 Time.
     
  15. UxSxAxfooty

    UxSxAxfooty Member+

    Jan 23, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is it? Happens every 4 years (except 2018...).
     
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  16. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
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  17. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think he would have been on the roster at least, for being left-footed, a ball-player, and a couple months of solid EPL play. Berhalter's never shown to not like him. He wasn't available mid-qualifying, and Gregg decided to temporarily move on because of Ream's age. Then he shockingly has his best year ever.

    He would have even started this game instead of CCV, at least. Maybe we see Miles-Zimmerman from the beginning. But if Gregg replaced Zimmerman in this situation, I don't know why he wouldn't have in that one. Ream's ahead of CCV on the depth chart.

    You didn't mention Richards. That may have been the snafu. But him and Miles were oil and water. Ream-MRob did well together at El Salvador. So we could have still seen it.
     
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  18. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh god, yeah, thats gonna make my two finger pour a three finger pour right there
     
  19. Jumbalaya

    Jumbalaya Member+

    Apr 27, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Sunderland AFC
    I'm one of those who just cast Ream away as a good passing CB who was average at defending. Shows what I know.
     
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  20. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I mean it isn't like we don't have another silky dribbling midfielder who knows how to hold onto the ball in Reyna who could come on for Musah. Aaronson, Wright, Reyna could have a decent shot at creating a counter attacking goal in the last half hour of that match or at least make Iran work to get the ball back.
     
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  21. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes. And 4 of last 5. That’s honestly serious cred in the world. Legit “Pot 2” team now.
     
  22. goussoccer

    goussoccer Member+

    May 23, 2001
    Avon, CT
    I saw the knee hit in the lower rib area
     
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  23. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
  24. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You have a lot of fans on this board. You know that, right?
     
  25. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At the time, that was one of my first hunches. Somebody said I was nuts, that it was just CP's nuts.
     

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