Post-match: USA v. Wales: 2022 Qatar World Cup Game 1

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  1. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    USA 1 (Weah via Pulisic)
    Wales 1 (Bale penalty)

    The good: the opening half was some of the best soccer the United States have ever played. It was not hit-and-hope, it was not take-what-the-game-gives-you, nor was it bunker-and-counter. It was “we’re going to take the ball and do what we choose with it, regardless of who you think you are.” And they did it. REALLY well for 45 minutes in the opening game of the World Cup. Bravo. Those of us who have been in the sport in the US since the 1980’s have always wanted to see THAT.

    The bad: After the initial flourish of energy, the toll of Wales’ increasingly physical play began to manifest. Wales smartly conceded the midfield and all hopes of counter attacks when they made their first sub. Wales then narrowed their game plan to hoisting the ball into the box for their physically superior players. They identified the US’ lack of physicality and turned the game to accentuate their own strengths instead of letting the superior US players continue to run roughshod. This led to a lame penalty and took 2 points from the US.

    The ugly: The US really had very few poor plays in the game. The Zimmerman foul on Bale was about as ugly as it got, but even that was somewhat banal. Bale is one of the most highly experienced players on the globe. He’s also an absolute physical freak. Zimmerman battled well and was bested on that play. He was outsmarted.

    Takeaways:
    - this was a game the US deserved. The US midfield absolutely dominated the game. They let Wales back into the game when they began to lose focus as they tired.
    - Pulisic and Adams both played extremely well…they were quite obviously the best players on the field.
    - The Dest-to-Yedlin drop off was steep. One of the most threatening aspects of the US attack was lost when he came off. Dest was beginning to combine cutting in and overlapping and it was causing the Wales defensive shape to collapse.
    - Tim Ream had a FANTASTIC game. He and Adams are our most in-form players.
    - Someone, anyone needs to start putting shots on goal.
     
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  2. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    This one point is all the US really needs to win matches.
    There are two parts to it:
    1 - The actual technique of taking the shot needs work and that work is NOT done at team practices. It is individual repetitive training that eventually might cause our players to get shots on goal.
    2 - The choice of when to shoot needs a LOT of work as well.

    I think a lot of out players do not practice correctly. They actually believe the saying "Practice makes perfect." But that saying is a lie. It is actually "Practice make permanent while it is Perfect Practice that makes perfect."
    Or to use another's words to say the same thing:
    " Most players practice until they get it right but great players practice until they never get it wrong."
    and
    “In football (soccer) as in watchmaking, talent and elegance mean nothing without rigour and precision.” – Lionel Messi
    and
    “You have got to shoot, otherwise you can’t score.” – Johan Cruyff
     
  3. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    It also takes courage (or preferably Ibrahimovich-style hubris), oddly enough.

    I was one of those guys who others got mad at for taking tons of shots, but I also scored a lot. You don’t score a hat trick unless you shoot the ball at least three times, most of them on frame.

    Culturally we frown upon those selfish, hubris-ridden players. We want the guy who will always make the one-tough lateral pass to the other guy who makes the same pass and on and on in an infinite loop. The guy we need is the guy who wants to put other players on the bad end of highlight reels.

    Skin your mark and hit it on goal. We need that to be our mantra.
     
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  4. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On Friday, Gregg is still going to be Gregg and the same crappy players, will still be on the roster. I'm not optimistic at all.
     
  5. Dr. Soccer90

    Dr. Soccer90 Member

    Nov 10, 2011
    That was the one thing i noticed that stuck out even when we had complete domination of the game.

    We were passing or timid when we should have taken a shot, and then shooting when there was a good pass to be made for a better percentage shot.

    reminds me of Beasley telling Jones in 2014 to shoot that shot next time you have the chance. Well, we know what happened after that.


    tells me this team is really close to being a major contender but just need the experience.
     
  6. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 23, 2018
    Im sorry but we watched a different match.. Pulisic did not play well.
    He fired crosses and set pieces time and again right into the defense. He had zero loft and touch. Im not sure what he was trying to do but it was horrible.
     
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  7. EL MONO MARIO

    EL MONO MARIO Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Montevideo, Uruguay
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  8. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    Wales packed the box and snuffed a lot of that out, credit to them. They overloaded Pulisic’s side of the defense and hacked the heck out of him, but he was constantly beating his mark. He played extremely well.
     
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  9. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    Pulisic was good, but did miss plays in the 2nd half. There were a number of times where the US had a clear opportunity on a counter and Pulisic just... didn't pull the trigger.


    If Gio couldn't have gone today, I wouldn't have minded putting Aaronson into Pulisic's spot and moving Pulisic to the RW spot Weah was occupying.
     
  10. SpencerNY

    SpencerNY Member+

    Dec 1, 2001
    Up in the skyway
    1-1 was a fair result. Had Whales applied any pressure to our backline in the first half we probably lose.

    Vs. England we will be bunkering on par with the 2014 Belgium game. I don’t think we have the guys who can pull it off though.
     
  11. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    I don’t think it was a fair result.

    The US deserved the win…probably to the tune of 2-0 or 2-1.
     
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  12. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 23, 2018
    we really have to settle for a 1-1 draw against england now and hope for the result against Iran.. thats a tall order.
     
  13. honest trade

    honest trade Member

    Aug 15, 2010
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Zimmerman takes his place in the US WC goat hall of fame alongside Wondo and Rico Clark. Who else am I missing?
     
  14. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Claudio Reyna if we’re talking individual plays.
     
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  15. JonFarts

    JonFarts Member

    Jun 4, 2016
    Why does everyone want a Wales-Iran draw? It seems like an Iran win would be much better for us.
     
  16. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe we form a human wall directly in front of our goal? With guys stretched out and in extreme yoga positions it might work.
     
  17. SpencerNY

    SpencerNY Member+

    Dec 1, 2001
    Up in the skyway
    We will likely lose to England, so Iran only on one point means we could advance on a tie or win over Iran, assuming England beats Whales.

    If Iran beats Whales, then damn, we need a win against Iran for sure.
     
  18. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We need to beat Iran to advance while keeping the game with England close on goal differential.

    I see no other way…
     
  19. SpencerNY

    SpencerNY Member+

    Dec 1, 2001
    Up in the skyway
    Are you assuming Whales beats Iran? Then yeap.
     
  20. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My gut tells me Wales is going to beat Iran. It’s going to be close and I don’t subscribe to the idea that Iran is going to implode. No matter what, Iran is going to come into the game with us motivated like it’s the World Cup final.
     
  21. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. We deserved a win.
     
  22. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Everyone forgot the spectacular Jeff Agoos OG v Portugal?
     
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  23. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    It was absolutely spectacular.
     
  24. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the decision making is so frustrating.....sooo many wide open lanes and angles not exploited and so many passes mis-timed, etc.....

    not from a lack of skill but just not being in sync with each other and the game somehow
     
  25. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    Welp, they did score a beautiful goal by doing exactly those things.
     

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