@Myshoe It appears as though Rotherham's game v Huddersfield has been moved back to the Saturday. What a load of shite. That pretty much means that I won't be going after all, which is a shame, as I was quite looking forward to it. Still, get thysen darn t'ground. Even an unsociable cheap-arse should be seeing his local club in their shiny new stadium when they're doing so well. It won't always be thus.
No worries, offer still stands to meet up for a match if you ever make the journey, bring Ivan along too, pick a time when Wednesday are at home the next day or summat and we'll make a day of it. I'm kind of out of the routine of going now and it would be expensive week in week out. I've never been to the NYS so I don't really know what I'm missing I guess. The club had been struggling through all manner of administrations and were down bottom of League One last I went, so at least I can't be accused of glory supporting. Middlesbrough match finished 0-0 btw.
Warne to Derby?! Folks at Wednesday saying it's done, and after a glance at BBC Sport, it appears it may be true. Devastating, if so. A bigger club, sure ... but a better job? As things now stand? If he wanted an 'upward' move, he could have done better, surely? **sigh** I knew when they moved the Huddersfield match back to Saturday that things were unraveling. Dark days ahead. At least Woody (Richard, not Ivan) will stick it out.
What a shame. Derby were a shambles previously but seemed to have turned it around a bit. Up to 7th in the table. Maybe they wanted a steadier hand on the tiller...? https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foo...ow-as-boss-agrees-derby-county-switch-3851812
£££££ same as players no doubt, he's signed a 4 year contract so even if he's sacked by Christmas he'll still be rolling in cash. You can't really blame him though in all honesty, it can't be easy scouting great players for peanuts all of the time and then having to replace them as soon as their contract runs out and they jump ship, it's just a constant turnover of players. No stability. The Derby job will be half the work (off the pitch) for 4-5 times the wages. We need a wealthy owner who is able to keep the squad together or we'll always struggle at Championship level.
This was a nice touch. https://www.themillers.co.uk/news/2022/september/read--an-open-letter-from-paul-warne/
I don't question any of that, but getting a good contract is not the same as getting a good job. And I don't think the Derby job is a good one, at the moment. Paul Warne could have a very bright future, but it only takes one misstep to prevent it ever reaching it's full potential. I mean, a good manager can always get work ... but it's a slippery incline to the top for a British manager. I would have thought that any club able to tempt him away from Rotherham would have been a far more stable organization that what Derby County have recently been. But they're in a division that he knows well, and knows how to get out of. Likely, should he take them up, that he'll have more to work with in the second tier than he'd ever get at Rotherham. And if it's his desire to earn his way into (that is, get promoted to) a Prem job, Derby's not a bad shout. I'm sure he'll have done his homework and has reason for confidence. But it's not the gig I'd've hoped for if I'm betting on Paul Warne.
Bigger club though... right? IMHO - Good move and he's a good manager. Derby sitting 7th with 14 points really tied with Barnsley for the last playoff spot... I hate to say it but Derby will be real trouble with him at the helm. Again, IMHO...
Derby were some 60-80m quid in debt and in administration just a few months back. I recall a takeover being announced by a local real estate developer (the dreaded 'real estate mogul'! ) earlier in the Summer, but I've read almost nothing about them since. Perhaps the new guy's cleared the debt and righted the ship - though 70m quid is a lot of righting. And fair enough ... again, you'd think Warne has done his homework. So yeah, it could be a good move. But crikey, that club was in a bad way. All I'm saying is that if I were in Warne's shoes, I wouldn't be rolling the dice that Derby County have pulled their heads out of their collective ass, takeover or not. I'd be much more enticed by a club with a record of recent stability - particularly as he didn't appear to be wanting out of his current (very stable) gig. By his own admission, it was a difficult decision. Why not wait for an easier one? Don't answer that. I'm just saying that if it were me, I think I'd be inclined to wait for an easier one, that's all.
I agree and you're not wrong. but... https://theathletic.com/3397152/2022/07/03/derby-county-saved-clowes/ shit that article wants you to subscribe... but apparently they were saved... I wished he'd have stayed with the Millers as well.
Yeah, I knew they'd been saved. But that doesn't mean the new guy knows what he's doing. I mean, Wednesday were saved a few years back ... but that hasn't really made it a good gig, has it? Carlos aside*, none of Chansiri's managers has left Wednesday without his reputation considerably weakened. Still, Warne will have liked what he's seen, so fair enough. *edit: and maybe Steve Bruce.
He probably thinks he has taken us as far as anyone can and that our current position in the table is massively overachieving. If Derby is the only solid big club offer he's ever had he may think that it might be his only chance. After a few transfer windows of us losing players to wealthier clubs we're more than likely going to be relegated again sooner or later, then at that point what Championship club is going to want a manager with 4(?) relegations from the Championship on his CV?
You would hope so but I've been saying Southgate should be sacked since failing in the last two tournaments but he's still here, people point to semi-finals/finals and win against Germany (who at the time were pants) but they were the easiest draws we are ever likely to get and still nothing to show for it. As for our next manager I'd honestly like to see Warnock offered a season with this squad if we can entice him out of retirement and then take some time recruiting a new manager. It's alright looking at our position in the table now but we don't want anyone in the mold of Kenny Jackett or Wayne Rooney who will resign as soon as the going gets tough or aren't up for a season or two battling for promotion in League One.
Richard Wood and Lee Peltier have taken over managing training with John Breckin (ex-Millers player, later assistant manager and general club legend) in an advisory role. Breckin was saying in an interview today that Sean Dyche's assistant goalkeeping coach volunteered to step in as goalkeeping coach but his name escapes me (must be a friend of his).
Rumors circulating that Mark Bonner (currently at Cambridge) is the frontrunner for the Rotherham job. Subsequent rumors (from Cambridge) suggest that he's turning it down to stay with the Us. We'll know soon enough, I suppose.
It sounds like he has declined an offer although nothing official, it's probably not worth the upheaval of moving house etc for an extra £10 a week. Just put Warnock in to end all of the publicity and spare us any further embarrassment and then appoint someone between now and the end of the season while nobody is paying any attention.
I was going back through an old thread on a SWFC message board looking for something about Ihiekwe when I stumbled upon Warne's somewhat snarky comment about he (Ihiekwe) and Smith 'wanting to play at a level that's comfortable for them' (or something to that effect) when they signed for Wednesday. I like Warne, but in the light of his dropping to the third tier for the bigger money/club, I can't say that it reflects particularly well on him.
Well if those were his comments then he's shown himself to be a bit of a hypocrite. I can only praise what he has done for us though, I just hope he doesn't come back to sign all of our best players as their contracts expire but then again if he doesn't others will. I'm not sure the Derby job will be all that comfortable for him if he doesn't have them challenging at the top.
Richard Wood is in the starting line-up again today so I assume Peltier will be on the touchline for us. Strange days... looking back though I'm sure that Warne was only given the job because of Kenny Jackett throwing in the towel after a few weeks and no other manager we were after wanting to come to us.