Johnny Futbol: The John Brooks Thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by ImaPuppy, Jun 16, 2014.

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Where does John Brooks sit in your USMNT Depth Chart?

  1. Dead lock starting CB

    3 vote(s)
    3.6%
  2. In CB rotation

    31 vote(s)
    36.9%
  3. Backup CB

    13 vote(s)
    15.5%
  4. Fringe

    16 vote(s)
    19.0%
  5. Not on the plane to Qatar

    21 vote(s)
    25.0%
  1. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    There is one record that I hope Brooks loses in 3 months - that of being the only US defender to ever score a goal at the World Cup.
     
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  2. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope that too but not out of spite, that was an extremely well taken goal, and Brooks was a great player for us in 2014.
     
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  3. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's more like there's no way we advance if we rely on goals from any striker candidate.
     
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  4. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Yep. There's no spite involved.

    For the same reason, I hope to see Landon Donovan lose his record of having the most goals in World Cup history of any player from the US (or North America).
     
  5. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I hope that happens in the group stage!
     
  6. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Defitely not this year.
     
  7. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's August 14, and John Brooks still has no club and has not played a competitive match in 3 months. At this point, I don't see any way he is called into the September camp, and therefore, I don't see any way he can go to Qatar. It is very likely that his national team career is over.
     
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  8. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Although it would probably be better for Brooks if had used a non-metallic parachute.....:cautious:...... Let's call it a Silk Parachute? :whistling:
     
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  9. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Are there people who actually believe this?

    Now switching this around, I definitely don't think Brooks has this pass in his tool kit. Maybe it was all the pressure they put him under.

     
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  10. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes and posting up a video of a crappy pass doesn't change things. Right now Brooks can't even pass out of his driveway....lol
     
  11. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Then you are delusional. I posted clips before of Brooks distribution and still waiting to see the examples from Zimmerman.

    Not sure why some people need to lie about the capabilities of these MLS players, but really weird to me. I only added this clip because for all the pushing of these MLS guys, folks around here don't seem to care how they play in the league. We saw this type of distribution in WCQ. What we didn't see was the atrocious defending.
     
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  12. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I remember Zimmerman making a couple of nice over the top into space passes at the end of WCQ but I know he doesn't pass as well as Brooks. Brooks is one of the best long passing CB's in the world. That's not the reason he's not getting called up. He's just a hostage to changing tactics. A few years ago all of the tweener CB's weren't getting time but now a lot of them fit perfectly as out CB's in a three CB formation. Not long ago second forwards were numerous but over the last decade they're rare as most teams play a single forward. So Brooks doesn't fit as well in most schemes as he did a few years ago. Sometimes it's complete luck as to how you fit and what formations and schemes are in style.
     
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  13. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Zimmerman has not been very good the last few matches. He has made some poor plays that have cost Nashville.

    Right now he is our #1 CB so I hope this is just a rough patch and his form improves before the World Cup.
     
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  14. papermache16

    papermache16 Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah the Nashville team has been leaking goals lately, Zimmerman part of the guilty party at times.
     
  15. WrmBrnr

    WrmBrnr Member+

    Apr 12, 2001
    San Carlos
    Are you saying you would still take Brooks to Qatar, even though he hasn't played a competitive game or even have a team to play on since May?
     
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  16. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Are you really making a big deal that Brooks doesn't currently have a team?

    Yes, I voted with the 60% that have Brooks going to Qatar. I believe Brooks has been severely mishandled by Berhalter and it will likely cost us in the WC.
     
  17. papermache16

    papermache16 Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is a VERY big deal that he doesn't have a team yet. Even if it was a Saudi Arabia team he might have a chance. But unattached players are not going.
     
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  18. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well it must be Berhalter's fault that Brooks hasn't found a team.....LOL
     
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  19. papermache16

    papermache16 Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No lie, some people feel that way.
     
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  20. WrmBrnr

    WrmBrnr Member+

    Apr 12, 2001
    San Carlos
    It becomes more problematic as time goes by. I hope he gets it sorted soon.
     
  21. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Not having a club on August 17th means a player can't go to the WC in Novemeber? Got it! Great rule!
     
  22. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He didn't say that. What he said is 'unattached players". So lets just cut to the bottom line.

    By when does Brooks need to be on a team for you to put him on the plane to Qatar?
     
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  23. theboogeyman

    theboogeyman Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Serious question: how many players coveted by teams in top 5, or even top 8 European leagues are still unsigned?
     
  24. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Not quite either. He also said... "It is a VERY big deal that he doesn't have a team yet."

    I domt agree with that at all.

    Too many assumptions in that hypothetical question. This team should have been built around Brooks. Our best center back pairing would have been Brooks and Richards. I highly doubt Brooks is going to retire from soccer and very likely to have been playing by November.
     
  25. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Not sure why this matters to you, but here you go. Feel free to look it up and misuse any of the information however you want.

    https://www.transfermarkt.us/statistik/vertragslosespieler
     
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