Spaghetti Weston: McKennie at Juventus

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by hokeydokey, Jul 7, 2016.

  1. madvillain

    madvillain Member+

    Aug 28, 2011
    Club:
    Brooklyn Knights
    I can see some of their fans' frustration using Weston today as basically a left winger that is also told to bust his lungs as a key part of the defense both high and low -- it's not exactly a role that is familiar to anybody, even Weston I'd imagine.

    When he's charging forward with acres of space it's not exactly his forte, even if he's "good enough" at it even for Juve's level -- the fans are rightfully expecting more.

    Personally I'd probably insert Weston for Zakaria and play a real winger but the gaffer seems to be absolutely in love with Weston's work rate and abilities. To not play basically at all in the preseason and then suffer and injury, practice basically twice and then start and go 70 has to be a pretty big vote of confidence.
     
  2. Ray Shoesmith

    Ray Shoesmith Member+

    Valencia
    United States
    Nov 14, 2021
    #16402 Ray Shoesmith, Aug 15, 2022
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2022
    In the past we had so few data points and players abroad the irrationality made sense.

    Now it‘s simple. They go, they show it or they don‘t. Tough situation? Wait a year or move and we will see.

    It‘s not hard anymore.

    Even MLS is becoming easier. A consistent high performer in MLS is a pretty good player.

    Stupid and irrational will always be stupid and irrational.

    Yes, there will always be outliers. If betting on the long shot is your thing that‘s fine. Just don‘t try
    and convince me the long shot will certainly hit. When it does great, 99% of the time you go home broke.

    For the purposes of this thread. Wes has shown he is a damn good player.
     
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  3. madvillain

    madvillain Member+

    Aug 28, 2011
    Club:
    Brooklyn Knights
    Well, on the other hand, now that we have so many more data points coming in all the time maybe just relax and enjoy the journey a bit more.
     
  4. Ray Shoesmith

    Ray Shoesmith Member+

    Valencia
    United States
    Nov 14, 2021
    Well said.




    We know that many won‘t be able to do that, but well said.
     
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  5. aeschylusdanceparty

    NYRB
    United States
    Jun 3, 2021
    Wes is a pretty much an automatic choice for Allegri when he can go at all. Think of that, injured, missed preseason, but he can go and he is in. Largely justified it too. Couple of passes in the attack hed probably like to have back, but considering the rust, still showed why he is in the team
     
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  6. Shaster

    Shaster Member+

    Apr 13, 1999
    El Cerrito, CA, USA
    Most likely Wes is a robot made by US military.
     
  7. LuckofLichaj2

    LuckofLichaj2 Member

    Oct 14, 2021
    I didn’t think he was that great- but so happy he’s back
     
  8. LuckofLichaj2

    LuckofLichaj2 Member

    Oct 14, 2021
    He might not be the greatest on the ball in advanced situations, but it’s a good spot for him. It’s a place where he covers ground and can still impact plays in both boxes. He doesn’t defend as well as Zakaria.
     
  9. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    His game is like sex and pizza - even when it's bad,it's still pretty good.
     
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  10. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #16410 LouisZ, Aug 15, 2022
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    If Wes and Musah continue to play more back for their clubs, GB might just go with the double pivot and insert an ACM, like Aaronson, or Reyna, or even Tillman
     
  11. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Nope. If the military made him it would have cost a lot more than $22.55 million.
     
  12. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wes doesn't play the double pivot for Juve under the new coach... If anyone would be paired with Musah at the double-pivot it would be Adams who has been playing the double pivot for a long time with RBL and now Leeds.
     
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  13. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member+

    Nov 10, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Ever since going to Juve Wes has shown that his energy is needed for Juve to look competent but they spend a lot of money on CMs so Wes usually ends up getting pushed outside. Wouldn't be shocked if this happens again even with Juve spending a lot again
     
  14. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
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  15. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Wes is like Trotsky: he has to live in a state of permanent revolution just to remain in place.
     
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  16. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    I don't really remember that, but I can't say with certainty what his level is. It's awesome what he's achieved so far - but I still want more. :shrug: Like automatic starter, dominant performances, lots of goals and assists, Edgar Davids more.
     
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  17. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    When he got to Italy the press there didn't give a dime for him, lol.

    To Wes, that was fuel.
     
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  18. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    I think Allegri earned his money today - they had a weak stretch and I think he changed from a 4-4-2 to a 4-5-1 that tucked Wes inside, switched Cuadrado to wide left, and di Maria very wide right / wherever he felt like going. Most of their better play happened after that switch.

    Wes' particular skillset has led to some interesting roles going back to Pirlo - like the right mid on D / extra center forward on offense that was my favorite. Zakaria and Locatelli are more inclined to defense and possession passing, so it may all fit pretty well as they get used to this.

    The idea that he could play, and has played, any of the midfield positions left to right in their potential 4-3-3, 4-4-2, or yesterday's 4-5-1 is fine with me, and if you have a player with that motor and the instincts to track back on D plus get his head into the box in attack - you try to find a way to make that work. If it means he comes out at 60-75 minutes more often, fine - he's good at helping get them a numbers advantage near the ball on both sides.
     
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  19. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    He’s going to be a world star after this World Cup.
     
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  20. madvillain

    madvillain Member+

    Aug 28, 2011
    Club:
    Brooklyn Knights
    The homegrown Italian midfielder most (biased) Juve fans expected to start over Weston sounds like he's about to be loaned out.

    Weston might actually be a key player for them this year not just a part time starter.
     
  21. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    I am going to have to wait to see what Excellency says about that
     
  22. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    Or he might be a part of USMNT Utd



    Adding him and Casemiro would make that midfield hugely better
     
  23. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Appearing in 3 of the top 5 leagues by age 24, not too shabby for a Yank!
     
  24. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

    United States
    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anytime I read how Wes should sit for the USMNT I remember that every damn league in Europe wants him. The top half of every league wants him. He's the deal. My eyes see that when he suits up for the US too but confirmation is always nice.
     
  25. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    I hope he stays with Juve. Anyone watching can see how his tactical side has improved hugely there.
     

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