Victims of a Campaign- The Other Footy Teams Thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by GunneRy, Mar 25, 2015.

  1. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Didn't help that he sacked the CL winning/league winning first team trainer and his team to replace them with goons like Phil Neville
     
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  2. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    oh, thank fuck. orstein said edwards turned down chelsea, saying he wants to take time off. i don't want dude with chelsea money and the infrastructure they'd put together.
     
  3. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    oh, wow. didn't know he did that. that's . . . . a hell of a way to shoot yourself in the foot.
     
  4. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    I agree with your take on things

    I actually think it’s a bit of what goes around comes around :)

    Many of the dodgy things I’ve seen going on in penalty boxes over the years have been Chelsea tactics or Chelsea players

    They pretty much invented all that crazy blocking off of goalies or strikers running into the box
     
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  5. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    That run down the touch line looked very strange .. kinda looked like the tall , gangly, skinny kid at school who never did sports day
     
  6. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Apart from ...

    Moyse took over a premier league winning team ... they weren’t a hopeless set of players !!


    :::
    “ It was important to me to leave an organisation in the strongest possible shape and I believe I have done so.

    The quality of this league winning squad, and the balance of ages within it, bodes well for continued success at the highest level whilst the structure of the youth set-up will ensure that the long-term future of the club remains a bright one. “
     
  7. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    It's a great example of a poorly managed transition...

    All the institutional knowledge was washed out of the front office and first team over a couple of years
     
  8. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    Tuchel brought it up in his post-match interview. I think there would be more talk about it if it wasn't also for the havertz foul. But I also tend to agree with the commentators that a lot of time passed between that foul and the goal. The offside obstruction was the more egregious call.

    Never follow a legend. Best thing to happen to Mikel was losing the job to Emery the first time around.
     
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  9. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    What’s Fergie going to say as he’s leaving, I’ve left behind a squad whose key players are in their late 20s and 30s? RVP, who at 28 carried United to their last Championship with 26 goals and 9 assists in 35 starts, under Moyes only managed 12 goals and 3 assists in 18 starts. Moyes inherited a team with Carrick and Evra at 32, Ferdinand 34, Vidic 31. Ferdinand in particular went from 26 starts in the Championship season to 12 starts under Moyes. The defenders replacing Vidic and Ferdinand, Smalling, Evans, and Jones, we’re never quite good enough. In fact, aside from Rooney, the young players Fergie touted were never quite good enough. Fergie knew it was time to get out.
     
  10. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
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  11. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    That was part of Ferguson’s leaving speech incidentally
     
  12. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    Tuchel looks like Waluigi when he runs
     
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  13. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The NBA retired #6 league-wide, which I thinks is a questionable practice BTW, as great as Bill Russell truly was.

    And I was reminded of other league-wide bans: 42 in MLB, 99 in NHL

    Thankfully this practice hasn’t reached the EPL yet, but I was a little surprised to learn that some big football clubs have retired numbers for their iconic players:

    Ajax #14
    Napoli #10
    West Ham #6

    Ps. I also didn’t know that many footy teams don’t assign #12 to honor the fans.
     
  14. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Both Robinson and Russel were superstars, but their numbers were retired for their contributions outside their sport as much as for their impact in their respective sports.
     
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  15. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    FWIW, Atlanta United "retired" 17 in honor of the fans, who are called the 17's since the club first played in 2017. I think that's a nice move.

    Sent from my moto g power (2021) using BigSoccer mobile app
     
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  16. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Exactly

    Utd were quite poorly run in the final years of Fergus

    Even with RvP they still needed a huge ref tilt to win the league

    Obviously Fergus choosing his own successor was peak hubris
     
  17. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Absolutely true. Not sure if Gretzky falls into that category however. And regardless of all this, I still think the practice of retiring numbers league-wide is quite questionable.
     
  18. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Got a kick out of this over at Defector:

    Life is Good When Manchester United is This Awful.

     
  19. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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  20. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    oh, 100%. i agree with you and the commentators that, once the ball got to the box, play had been allowed to go too long to call back. but it shouldn't have even gotten that far considering the assistant was standing right there.

    but, yeah, for me that offside obstruction was absolutely horrible. and, like i said, for me, they also missed it on son on kane's chance/miss in the 61'.

    i feel like it helped both wenger and arteta to have had rioch and emery as that sacrificial buffer.
     
  21. leppercut

    leppercut Member+

    Oct 10, 2006
    SLC and Anchorage
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They could but so far they haven’t been able to get it going
     
  22. leppercut

    leppercut Member+

    Oct 10, 2006
    SLC and Anchorage
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They could but so far they haven’t been able to get it going
     
  23. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    christ. that's a fucking sell job by andersen - i hate that bullshit - and the idiotic referees fall for it every single time.

    granted, yeah, you lead with your head and you get a red. that's consistent (if shitty). but andersen instigated it and should at least be carded as well.
     
  24. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Don't you dare do my lanky purple boi like that.
     
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  25. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/wpbnb8/second_angle_of_the_darwin_nunez_red_card/

    No one really started it, just normal jostling on a corner. Nunez escalated it by trying to headbutt Andersen during the play, then actually did it when Andersen called him out for it after.

    The only thing I'd "blame" Andersen for is going down like a cartoon character, but if you don't go down, you don't get calls. Refs need to be better about that, so I don't ever really blame a player for selling contact.
     
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