Houston Dynamo v. CF Montreal , Saturday, August 13

Discussion in 'Houston Dynamo' started by newtex, Aug 7, 2022.

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Result?

Poll closed Aug 13, 2022.
  1. Dynamo win

    1 vote(s)
    16.7%
  2. Dynamo tie

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Dynamo lose

    2 vote(s)
    33.3%
  4. It's all hopeless

    3 vote(s)
    50.0%
  1. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    Score a goal, give up a goal. Almost right away.

    At least we aren't doing the same mistakes over and over....
     
  2. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    don't get why we went to valentin past 2 games and not dorsey. like we're stuck back 2 debates ago.

    HH didn't do much on defense either.
     
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  3. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    MTL looks like you could go after their CBs and high line with route one all night.
     
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  4. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    i don't like the zone, no one ever seems marked on anyone, everyone has space.

    i don't like the press plus zone because you're not scaring me running at me if the passing option is sitting open in a zone gap behind you.
     
  5. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    the coach overrates junqua's defending ability, he should be mindful of the man wide when the ball gets cleared out.
     
  6. DynamoManiac

    DynamoManiac Member+

    Jan 27, 2014
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Best half Ferreira has played. Don't know who got on him to motivate him a bit, but I like it.
     
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  7. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    Couple minutes away from yet another loss. The results are predictable to say the least.
     
  8. Ethos

    Ethos Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    Apr 28, 2019
    Houston
    Ah good, it's over, now I can go back to watching Reacher on Prime. Good show, you guys should check it out.
     
  9. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The 3 points were on the table to take home tonight.
    But alas, our guys find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
    Our defense is so trash Oscar the Grouch doesn't approve!
    Lots of folks at PNC tonight btw. Crowd is there, but the defending of our house is not.
     
  10. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020


    Jordan would be proud of his ability to use so many words to say absolutely nothing
     
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  11. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Go to Paramount Plus and watch the new Beavis and Butthead, hilarious.
     
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  12. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #37 Westside Cosmo, Aug 14, 2022
    Last edited: Aug 14, 2022
    2021 Dynamo thru 25 games: 23 points
    2022 Dynamo thru 25 games: 25 points

    Nagamura has HH and Sebas and only two points better than Tab Ramos?

    enough for you to evaluate yet @DonJuego?

    club may have no choice but to make Nagamura one and done. It’s not like he has a good track record they can sell
     
  13. Brian Gilchriest

    Eintracht Frankfurt
    United States
    Oct 3, 2020
    I don't believe they will let him go for any reason short of finding out he is actually a werewolf that hunts and eats babies. If we let him go, we'll get Tab 3.0. Or is it Wilmer 4.0?

    I said this last year, we get rid of him, we'll get a different version of the same guy. All NagaOut, in my opinion, is just wishful thinking.
     
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  14. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I disagree. Bringing him back is punting on 2023. The noise from the fans in concert with poor performances down the stretch may be enough. This team is already fading from the attention of the actual fanbase (not even talking about the broader Houston fan population) and next year all of the games will only be on Apple TV with a special package subscription. Club will be irrelevant if you try to sell the base on a poor USL level coach. What the hell is Jimmy Nielsen and the rest of the staff doing?
     
  15. Brian Gilchriest

    Eintracht Frankfurt
    United States
    Oct 3, 2020
    The club is already irrelevant in our market, and has been the entire time I've been following them.

    I also say this again, same as I said last year, even if they fire him we're going to get the same guy with a different name.
     
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  16. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i think Segal won’t want to waste his investment in HH and others on another rookie coach. He has to stay relevant enough to get awarded a gaming license by the Texas legislature
     
  17. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
    The only way around it is to overpay for a coach. The good thing at least is there’s no salary cap for coaches. You could theoretically pay a head coach $4 million and each of his assistants $1 million. While I do think most coaches would rather more money go to the roster it’s still an option they have on the table.
     
  18. Brian Gilchriest

    Eintracht Frankfurt
    United States
    Oct 3, 2020
    Not if you consider the type of Coach Pat said he's looking for in his opening press conferences. He wants a guy who will collaborate, guys making $4mil aren't those types of guys.


    Glenn: What do you want in a coach?



    Pat: (paraphrasing) A collaborator, someone to install a "proactive style".....like a Bayern Munich or a Liverpool" someone with a group mindset.......last I want is a guy who wants to sit back and lose a game 1-0. I'd rather find a guy who wants to be proactive than a guy who sits back and lets a goal slip in and lose 1-0.
     
  19. Brian Gilchriest

    Eintracht Frankfurt
    United States
    Oct 3, 2020
    I don't think Texas is going to base it's gaming decisions on Soccer lol.

    Also, you can trust this 100%. If Naga gets fired, we'll get another rookie head coach.
     
  20. Ethos

    Ethos Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    Apr 28, 2019
    Houston
    All of us remaining Dynamo fans should immediately be offered employment by the C.I.A, because I think we have proven we can withstand neglect, torture, mockery and still be loyal.
     
  21. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ...and we voluntarily hand over our own money to endure this process year after year.
     
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  22. 7seven7

    7seven7 Member+

    May 5, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    my comments for this game

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  23. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    #48 juvechelsea, Aug 15, 2022
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2022
    i actually thought the offense was better than in a while with the 10/trequartista approach ie with 2 forwards not 3. they just had to overcome 3 GA. the 9 was connected backwards with his teammates for a change and we were much more direct. even the first 20 or so second half, you can debate the wisdom of the tactical choice, but despite few up we were still getting some chances just not finishing. only last 20-30 with both the formation change and subs did this revert back into head to the flag and hit hopeful crosses.

    now, tactically, i thought the game felt like SJ 4-3 at home. we got it back to a tie at half just like that time but this time he seemed to panic over the second penalty, which didn't change the scoreline. we then basically got beat on clinicality on the few chances each team had.

    we have had some people pimp a 5 back or at least 3 back idea and to me they don't tend to think about who is marking whom. you end up with stupid stuff like parker ruining shape running out to double because you basically have CBs standing around while wingbacks mark the wide forwards, which defeats the formational point. i mean when i played 352 the 3 marked the 2-3 men, USUALLY MAN MARKING, and the wing mids marked each other. so do you want your 3 defenders marking the wide men on islands, wingback playing up, or do you want a few CBs just standing around while wingbacks do the marking and they have 1 real man to worry about.

    i thought the defensive mistake was personnel. valentin shouldn't be playing. the player should be ushered to the endline. if you try to cut across the jockey into the middle you should be slide tackled in a crumpled heap. to be fair junqua got burned in mirror fashion recently just the same. i didn't understand BOTH bench backs AND backup wingbacks. that felt like asking for it. second string basically.

    personally i think we should still be trying man marking to keep the GA down where we have a better chance. but despite 5 back it was still a zone. the zone kills them. they just stand around passively in lines and get passed around like some eredivisie team resting while waiting on an errant pass. the comparison with say atletico madrid in their 352 should be obvious. you simply don't get into certain areas -- beyond about 35 yards in -- without getting tackled so hard your ancestors feel it.

    either that or just commit to games like this one being 4-3 some direction, 2 halves like the first, and what happens, happens. and put some attackers on your bench like you might have to score some goals to win.
     
  24. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    i thought micael was decent but i am sure that poses a slot problem that i guess gets finessed on emergency loans.
     
  25. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    not only is a good coach not going to want to collaborate with some wet behind the ears GM, who may even want to back seat drive, he'll want the GM job himself. i would hand it to him. problem solved. one way to fund the position is trim the GM bureaucracy and hand the money to a unified coach who does his own personnel work. the idea behind the division of labor was to improve on the quality of player signed by a busy coach. i think with one exception the GMs sign crap and some of the best signees are people the coach knew or met someplace.
     

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