Post-match: The Post Presidency :: Trump Faces The Music Thread

Sums up the relationship

 

I know very well who I am- I'm the one who hasn't been caught doing anything that would lose me my vote.

Correct. That's, uh, why I used the number.

I gave multiple reasons for the people who didn't vote. Privilege was listed among them. You'll have to find something else to bleed about.

Anyhoo, you're here quoting my reply to the reply to the post that triggered you.

Here, son. This is what you were supposed to quote.

I've already figured this out. There's no need for a "let's". We can't focus on any of them, because the laws were in place when they were broken. Nobody goes to prison for breaking laws that haven't been passed.

They're felons. Plenty of US states deny the franchise to felons. I live in one. I'm not particularly interested in giving it back to them. Much more interested in examining the situations that led to them being convicted of felonies to begin with.

To state without thought that the felons would necessarily vote Dem (because of their clor? Frankly, I'm not sure they're that bright.) But surely you've got a chart in your mom's basement somewhere that lets you know the percentage of inmates who are conservative or Libertarian (those Aryan Christian Nation Identity guys). You have reason to believe the majority are POCs, yes. I don't have any reason to think they'd be collectively wise enough to vote Dem.

The undocumented CAN'T vote. They have no business voting. The demented have no business voting (but they elected Trump). Did you huff paint before logging on?

Christ took your lunch money in middle school, and fed multitudes while you ate Van-O-Lunch cookies. That's how much of a worthless whiny geek your ass is. Don't come here acting arrogant. Appear when you're called.

 

Forget about tan suits.....This was the biggest scandal.....

 

didn’t that guy Prinzip start a war already.

 

Thinking, if this ‘ever’ went to trial. Then they chose a jury of 12 and true jurors. You just know one will be a trumpster! That’s all it will take.

 

Wut?

Do you mean, "They pulled THEIR level," Or do you mean, "They pulled THEIR lever...." [As in the people in question voted the way that they did.]

I'm not trying to serve as the grammar police here; I really just don't understand what you're trying to convey.

Thanks in advance.

 

They pulled the lever......I am sure you know that is what I meant.
But grammar nazi will do what grammar nazi does...

 

Talked to a friend of mine who works criminal cases (as a public defender). While he said that yes, that is a possibility, that if a judge is competent juries have less wriggle room that is commonly thought. A good judge won't accept a crap verdict that isn't fact or law-based. The judge will push and lean on the jurors to deliver a verdict that can be supported. That often has the effect of changing the minds of holdout jurors.

Meaning, if the jury has an outright MAGA cult member, forget it. Those people wouldn't convict Donnie if he did shoot that person on 5th Avenue. But an everyday Republican who voted for Trump, yeah sure.

 

Your entire argument is that everyone who didn't vote is helping Trump. "And the folks who just decided to stay home." Most of the people that you ignorantly believe "decided" to stay home actually can't vote.

Voting Age Population -- which you poorly calculated by not doing it at all -- doesn't account for the barriers to voting. Voting Eligible Population -- which accounts for some of the things I bring up -- suggests US turnout is actually pretty high, but even that overcounts who can vote due to the massive obstacles thrown in the face of most voters.

There is no legion of privileged nonvoters to be mobilised, and chastised for prior inactivity. I know this because unlike you, I've put in the hours trying to get them to vote.

Most of you know that I don't even conceal my disdain for them any more, and part of it is I live a continent away and still do more to help it out than this shoddy crew.

 

If no one is mobilized to vote by me, then there is no one to mobilize to vote.

-- BS Resident Narcissist

 

No, some of them decided not to vote. "Weren't inspired". You don't know what that number is, so you try to ignore it.

The population too young to vote wouldn't necessarily skew one way or the other.

Sheldon, you're being a middle schooler over a very small part of my post.

I'd wager a guess that most of us don't know or gaf for real about what you emote over

 

I'd be careful posting while doing other things, you might accidentally end up within 500 feet of places you can't be.

 

I used to beat the shit out of those Mu Alpha Theta virgin types in chess. Made them so angry to lose to a brother that they just about tore up their pocket protectors.

 

I missed the days people just lost. Bad for pocket protectors, but good for society. Do you have any idea how many pocket protectors are now being saved by people simply refusing to accept that they've lost and then threatening you for thinking you've won?

Which brings us full circle to Trump. Not another poster. Trump.

 

What's irritating me is my argument about nonvoters is they are structurally and systematically prohibited from voting by institutions, and @chad and @Auriaprottu are arguing that it's personal responsibility is why they don't vote.

Now which party is the one always yelling about personal responsibility??? I can't remember.

 

Girls, girls! You're both very pretty. Ok?

 

It's not a pissing contest. It is the heart and soul of the fight over the Democratic party. This "******** em all, let's go medieval on the GOP" vs "let's work to help everyone" fight is *the* debate going forward in Democratic politics. The GOP don't have this argument because they've already decided to say "******** em all."

I think it's worth an honest debate even here on BigSoccer. Especially on a thread that should have more space given to detailing the ongoing assault on elections by the Republican party, even when they are in "the minority."

 

What's irritating you is the burr you have up your ass, Sheldon.

SOME nonvoters are structurally and systematically prohibited. Some of that prohibition is reasonable (youth, felons, noncitizens/undocumented). Others have said they weren't inspired.

There's nothing wrong with personal responsibility. That the GOP has none but shouts about it is neither here nor there.

 

I'm with you, Patriot. Many Are Saying secret documents and perhaps an intern or two are buried next to the 1st hole at Deadminster. The lamestream media MUST investigate

 

What is "reasonable" about the disenfranchisement of people convicted of felonies?
Did they forfeit their citizenship?

 

Cinderella rep. I have the damn thing memorized by now.

 

Yeah, unless the crime was related to voter fraud, preventing felons from voting is white supremacy in a nice clean, pressed, white sheet.

 

Why should someone caught smoking weed three times in Florida be denied the right to vote while in jail, while Coca-Cola employees who illegally siphon groundwater and pay their debt to society in civil court get to keep voting while the company pays out?

Why should we be okay with the wrongly convicted accused murderer, going to death row, doesn't vote, but both the lazy prosecutor and crooked judge get to vote?

Shouldn't we instead just let everybody vote and assume that serial killers are very unlikely to sway the outcomes of the big races?