Mr. Josmer Volmy Altidore

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by 50/50 Ball, Aug 22, 2016.

  1. 50/50 Ball

    50/50 Ball Member+

    Sep 6, 2006
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    No way you go one name and not use "Jesus."
     
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  2. 50/50 Ball

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    Sep 6, 2006
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    Jozy made his debut for Puebla. Guess the Mexican immigration officials don't need weeks to get a footballer on the pitch.
     
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  3. gogorath

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    May 12, 2019
    Howard got hurt in the Mexico game early in the cycle and was never the same again for club or country.

    I actually think Steffen's back has created a lot of his issues as well.

    But yeah, Howard's drop from all-world to mediocre MLS GK was one huge element. Bruce made a couple of late tactical errors, IMO. We had no room to move because JK stopped coaching at some point. Brooks had stinkers and then got hurt. Cameron had a stinker. Lletget looked great and got hurt.

    There was just a lot of blame to go around, but Jozy and Bradley -- not blameless -- seem to shoulder it all. Even in the T&T debacle, it's weird Bradley gets blasted for jogging to a corner flag more than Omar for the OG or Nagbe/Howard's terrible work on the second T&T goal.
     
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  4. Pegasus

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    Apr 20, 1999
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    Omar and Nagbe / Howard were bad but mistakes. At the end of a game that knocks you out of the WC when someone is jogging they are going to catch heat. It's not a mistake it's effort. Anyway Howard shouldn't have been starting as that's on Arena for not realizing he was past it. Arena gets a lot of blame also because he didn't really rotate as he should have.
     
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  5. gogorath

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    The relative level of heat is odd. And Jozy as well.

    These are guys a bunch of people never liked, and have just rallied behind it.
     
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  6. Pegasus

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    Apr 20, 1999
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    I liked Bradley up until that moment. I don't hate him but he lost a lot of respect. He'd always been prickly and expected teammates to defer to him especially newbies but one of the best attributes of US men's players has always been hustle. No matter how talented our players become I hope they never lose that.
     
  7. 50/50 Ball

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    Sep 6, 2006
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    I assumed he was exhausted and wanted to get his breathing under control for the corner. He should have enough credit in the bank IMO.
     
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  8. SpencerNY

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    Dec 1, 2001
    Up in the skyway
    Cap’em
     
  9. butters59

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    Feb 22, 2013
    Yozi!
     
  10. ChrisSSBB

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    Jun 22, 2005
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    Held the defender off, slotted home with his left. Well done.
     
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  11. 50/50 Ball

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    Apparently he almost got another in stoppage time. I don't think he's going to Qatar but I hope he makes Gregg think about it.
     
  12. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
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    Gregg's not thinking about it.

    Altidore isn't going to Qatar.

    We'll all be thrilled if he gets on a roll here in Mexico, but he's out of the USMNT picture.

    Seriously, can we get over this trend of suggesting guys for the upcoming World Cup squad because they've scored one goal? Please?
     
  13. An Unpaved Road

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    Mar 22, 2006
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    Agreed. You need two goals to be in the USMNT conversation.
     
  14. gomichigan24

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    Jul 15, 2002
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    If he were to get on a roll between now and the September camp I think he’d definitely be in contention for a call up for that camp.

    Berhalter referred to him recently as a hall of famer and one of the best ever. I wouldn’t write him off, but I think it’s unlikely he’ll play well enough between now and then to make his inclusion a likely scenario.
     
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  15. SpencerNY

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    Dec 1, 2001
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    I only posted the goal in here because I couldn’t find the Yank Broad thread. He’d have to go on an absolute tear to get a sniff at this point.

    I don’t have any problem imagining our current crop of strikers having extreme issues scoring come Qatar, however.
     
  16. ifsteve

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    Jul 7, 2013
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    Jozy would be a very high risk move even with 26 roster spots. Too high a chance of injury. And as I always ask in these discussions ...the other part of the equation....who do you leave home to bring him?
     
  17. MarioKempes

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    Aug 3, 2000
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    88', 3 subs used, no Luca.
    Looks like he is 3rd choice behind Solari and Tapia.
     
  18. rgli13

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    Mar 23, 2005
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    not gonna lie- im a little interested in this "yank broad" thread as well :cool:

    is there/has there ever been a place for mexico/south american based players? is that in ya and ive just never noticed?
     
  19. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Not sure if he ever scored against Mexico but if he scores a bunch of goals in Mexico, that's the next best thing :D
     
  20. 50/50 Ball

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    Sep 6, 2006
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    That's the difference between him and "Joe 2 Goals", the coach respects him deeply.
     
  21. 50/50 Ball

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    Sep 6, 2006
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    1 I think.
     
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  22. gomichigan24

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    Jul 15, 2002
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    Manchester United FC
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    United States
    With a 26 man roster you can afford to take the risk and I feel like the guy you leave home would be Pefok. Realistically though Altidore isn’t likely going to play at the level that warrants his inclusion.
     
  23. SpencerNY

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    Dec 1, 2001
    Up in the skyway
    Pefok has not done well for us if we’re being kind.
     
  24. ifsteve

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    Jul 7, 2013
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    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At this point, and I have not been a fan of Pefoks, but no way I take Jozy over him. Just no way.
     
  25. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
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    Manchester United FC
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    United States
    Well we’re also talking about a hypothetical Jozy who is healthy and tearing up Liga MX. One we are unlikely to see but who would almost certainly get a shot if we do.
     

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