Post-match: The Post Presidency :: Trump Faces The Music Thread

While Garland/DOJ/FBI deserves praise for the way they handled this week….at some point we’re going to have to discuss how it took them 18 months to recover TS nuclear documents stored in an unsecure location by a man they were at best..:unable to prove was not conspiring with the Russians in the lead up to the 2016 election, and of whom one of their own investigators stated had obstructed their investigation into the Russian interference.

18 months.

 

Ya know what, I think the Post was duped here. No way the federal gov't played with kid gloves to get nuclear secrets back from Trump for over a year. This was planted to make what ever really was in boxes look like small potatoes.

 

Kim Jong-un needs help with his nuclear weapons.

 

I wonder if Liddle Marco will defend Trump
Adding this link for absolutely no reason : https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...e-trusted-with-americas-nuclear-weapons-codes

 

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I don't have much to add other than bringing up that we don't have a sense what "nuclear documents" refer to. We're aware - and I read recently, specifically related to this situation - that Trump's intelligence reports and briefings were, shall we say, different from other presidents'. He doesn't read, so he wasn't given detailed documents to pour over in the WH residence (that could have been kept and spirited away to Florida). Lots of his briefings were verbal. Or content was dumbed down to bullet points on a single page. Then, of course, intelligence grew to distrust him and kept certain confidential information away from him altogether.

The implication being that documents that he would already have had in his possession might be very confidential, but perhaps less so - or less comprehensive and complete - than would have been the case with a normal, less treasonous president.

Anyway, we know there was a subpoena to get back documents, and that clearly wasn't entirely successful. So the process of confirming what's in Florida and getting it back has been taking place for some months.

We also know that this "raid" was, in fact, a very low profile affair by the FBI, not structured to create any public knowledge that would embarrass Trump. A lot has been said about Citizen Trump, like any other citizen, has to obey the law. But it seems obvious that the FBI has been giving Trump far, far more leeway in this situation than any other private citizen would have benefitted from. Had Trump not gone public about this, we'd not have known anything about it.

 

I think it is counterintel as well, slow play to see what he is going to do with them. He just hosted a golf tourney at one of his clubs that was attended by some high ranking Saudi officials....

 

The Saudi orb he touched forced him to give nuclear secrets to the Saudis.

 

"Where's my Roy Cohn?"

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Fruits of crime nonetheless...

“fruits of crime”...”illegally possessed” https://t.co/y02awpVbTI

— Laura Rozen (@lrozen) August 12, 2022

P.S. Garland has the receipts.

Breitbart reveals that the Former President is under investigation for violating the Espionage Act. 18 USC 793.

10 year penalties for each document.

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) August 12, 2022

18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

— Jackson Proskow (@JProskowGlobal) August 12, 2022

 

Dbag released details to favorite Wingnut sites like Breitbart who published agents names. Awesome.

He released it with FBI agents names, which @BreitbartNews published. You know the DOJ/court wouldn't do that. He knew @WSJ would not publish their names. Fox? Give Watters half a minute to get art on them or photoshop something...

— Sue "Russian warship go F yourself!" 🇺🇦 (@Sue99339007) August 12, 2022

 

Sorry to link to a tweet citing Breitbart…but they’re as likely as anyone to have direct access to primary sources within trumps orbit

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Obstruction of justice, removal of records….and….espionage are the statutes cited in the warrant.

yeah…this is pretty ********ing big.

my advice…but corn futures…cause I’m gonna be eating popcorn by the truckload in the next two years.

 

Never attribute to malice what can be proved by sheer incompetence.

 

Malice or incompetence…the result really should be the same.

I expect trump et al to start arguing that if the documents were really that big of a deal…the FBI would have raided MAL on January 21.

not sure that’s going to work well for them.

My best guess is that the whitehouse did such a shitty job with record keeping…it was a lot more difficult than normal to track who ended up with what classified material…and what classified material went to the WH only to disappear. So it’s possible it took that long to identify everything shared with trump..:and what was not returned. But still…18 months

 

Not all flag humpers are traitors, but every traitor is a flag humper.

 

There's understandably a lot of buzz around the presence of the Espionage Act in the warrant, but I think the obstruction statute may be equally significant. Probable cause that Trump and his cronies were concealing documents in order to obstruct an investigation - that seems like a very big deal.

 

How about flag huggers?