*2nd highest payroll in the league. It's largely his team now. He seems blind to Cabral and to what formation to use when. I believe it's 6 games? now where we have been down 3-0 at halftime - unacceptable! This team just doesn't come out ready to play, we don't seem to understand how to win. Does Vanney need to go if we don't make the playoffs?
No. Although he should be. The team desperately needs some sort of consistency in its coaching staff. It’s not lost on me that we’ve gone through 4 coaches in the last 6 seasons all with their own systems and ideas and have generally been garbage through that span. He gets one more bite of the apple for me.
I voted no simple because I think if we don’t make the playoffs that the FO should be fired first. Don’t want them to pick Vanney’s successor.
Ok, let’s see. Most of this team both starters and bench are his choices. His tactics don’t work most of the time or he can’t get the team to follow them thus the Williams public outburst that some members of his team do whatever they feel like doing. There is no consistency to this team. I have zero idea what they are playing at most of the time. He cant keep games the team are leading and he can hardly come back from games he is losing except for the individual effort and prayers, today from Chicha but usually its Dejan. But in general we play slow, sloppy and like it’s a practice. No passion in this team except for individual plays now and then. Is this what we expect from all the money and time invested in this team? In two years Vanney can’t show any improvement. What little gains we did in defense are now null and void. What will 3 years provide? Time to do what exactly? Fire more of his own picks? Hire more players with his track record and eye for talent? Of course the blame is not his alone but having an FO that is basically useless at forming a plan for the future and implementing it at their level the job of a good coach becomes all the more critical because the team will rise or flop by his ability to shape its future. He is not a disastrous coach. He is simply not what this organization, such as it is, currently needs. I see no future with Vanney as coach of this team.
I’ll play devils advocate and say I wouldn’t fire him.. yet. This club is a mess top to bottom. We have no idea what goes on or doesn’t go on behind the scenes. Is Vanney getting what he needs? I remember an article earlier this year about how their wasn’t a dedicated room for the team to watch game tape. A week ago, the Times published an article about how they scouted players with direct Greg quotes about how agents called and offered players. If it was a position of needed, they were signed. Can a coach be successful this way? Can a coach have two of three DPs contribute absolutely nothing? How involved was he in acquiring Cabral? Costa? I am in no way saying he isn’t at fault because regardless of personnel, you don’t go down 3-0 at halftime 4 different times in a season. I am just saying that it will be hard for any coach to be successful when it’s clear this club is ran like a pub team.
When we miss the playoffs I don’t really care. Vanney is a deck chair on the Titanic. Port, starboard it’s all going to the bottom of the sea.
Who has the most money here? Since @TrickHog is the most woke and PC and most successful out of all of us, I am assuming he has the most funds to contribute in a Galaxy fans-funded bid to take over the team with the rest of us chipping in. We already know who would head up our France scouting division. A couple folks here would head up the marketing with some pulling double duty on marketing and analytics. It could work.
Don't know if I'm the most successful here, but I do know that I'm also an independent filmmaker - so there goes all my money... Are there any money-hoarding billionaires lurking on here?
The only reason I'm against firing Vanney is because the problems run deeper than him and assigning all the blame to Vanney just lets the real culprits escape blame. But of course any coach that fails to get us into the playoffs for 2 years in a row should be sacked...
This one's tough. Under any other circumstances, missing the playoffs twice in a row would simply be unacceptable. Even accounting for Chicharito and Cabral taking a step back this season, which is a little out of Vanney's control -- if either had their numbers from last season, we're in a much better spot -- the team makes the same mistakes (like conceding early and MULTIPLE times) too often to not hold Greg accountable. But hearing many stories about how Vanney is literally modernizing the the front office resources and build them from nothing makes me hesitant to move him. I'm not sure any other coach makes the effort and it seems to have become a personal crusade for Vanney, regardless of his personal success (Baxter said that Greg promised, win or lose, no other coach would come in and have to deal with what did). So I keep him. I also think, just like our DPs, we're probably not going to be able to attract a quality coach. I think you're going to get damaged goods; either someone who is long past their prime that can't get a job anywhere else or a grifter who will make big promises knowing he won't deliver and that he'll collect a paycheck either way (someone like Klinsmann comes to mind). I don't think a real quality coach would want to work with this FO at this point.
Oh my god - you wrote this? Of course you did. Absolutely brilliant! No wonder I enjoyed Pope Dreams so much.
For me it’s not the record or missing the playoffs- it’s Vanney’s bizarre personnel decisions and the teams lack of direction after two years of coaching. I still like him as a person and think he might even be a good Galaxy executive (even club president) — as long as he doesn’t do player evaluations. But I also agree with you that firing Klein is the first order of business. But the truth is that we still have no one with any power in the organization that knows how to evaluate and coach talent. Until we find that we won’t be a great team again. Quickest way there - clean house!
I had never seen this. It's a masterpiece. I almost choked on my coffee at " we might as well get one of those idiots from soccer.com to coach the team." NO NO NO NOOOOOOOO he didnt just say that!!! I got tears man. Yeah, update this thing.
When Adolf is accepting the situation and he says "hey, it could be worse. We could be San Jose fans." That statement still stands.
Part of the issue with the FO is they are swayed by strong coaches who have a definite way they want to play (GBS and Vanney both), who are strong willed and adamant it is their way or the highway. And they don't consider that the coach WE need RIGHT NOW to right the ship is someone who takes the pieces we have and figures out how to maximize these players on the field -- not develop an arbitrary style of play independent of our current players that requires a 3-4 year rebuild and time for trial and error. It is so obvious this team is screaming for a 3-5-2 that puts our best players in their best positions on the field with some semblance of a balance on offense and defense. But that isn't the system and way of play that Vanney wants. So we continue to struggle and miss the playoffs in the meantime as he slowly gets a team that can play Vanney-ball....
Gotta wait and see how the season plays out before the update. And I should point out that immediately after that video, the Galaxy made the playoffs for 7 straight years and won 3 MLS Cups and 2 Supporter Shields** in that time... Hopefully if I make a new video we will have the same thing happen again!! **The only 2 Supporter Shields when the league played a completely balanced schedule.
No, of course. It was a long time ago. It was a time of frustration. The Fuhrer was spoiled back then as were so many of us fans but we were all about to enjoy the best times as Galaxy fans. Smug Arena did indeed have a plan and Beckham would turn his lousy play around. I can't imagine what Adolf would think of his beloved Galaxy now that it hasn't seen the inside of playoffs but for a single match in more than half a decade now. He would have certainly had everybody in the bunker swallow the cyanide. Take your time. the inspiration will come to you.