Brenden Aaronson at Union Berlin (olf Leeds)

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  1. usfootball20

    usfootball20 Member+

    May 15, 2012
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    United States
    Sadio mane - high pressing attacker. Obviously better than Aaronson at this point, but that’s who I think of.
     
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  2. theboogeyman

    theboogeyman Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    That’s a solid comparison, though Mane’s speed allowed him to thrive on the wing more than Aaronson likely will.
     
  3. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    He’s a pretty unique player and probably shouldn’t be compared to anyone at this point. Especially not a guy like Havertz, who may or may not put much effort into a match.
     
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  4. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

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  5. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    That looks pretty clearly to me like Brendan's goal in the angle shown in that clip between 0:28 and 0:35.
     
  6. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    You really think the goal committee is looking at the players nationality when deciding? Cmon now...
     
  7. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
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    Go to minute 77 of the peacock broadcast - it does a slow-mo that really looks like an own goal.
     
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  8. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
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    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The issue with this goal not being credited to Brendan is that if the defender doesn’t make contact, it most certainly gets tapped in by Brendan. It’s not one of those situations where the defender back passes it into his own goal.

    There is a fair amount of grey area regarding own goals but this is a scenario where there was no other option for the defender
     
  9. Allende72

    Allende72 Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Nov 17, 2008
    Wilmington, NC
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    United States
    But Bamford was given credit for the assist--some consolation for the team.
     
  10. bungadiri

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    10-4 Boss.

    Aside: I had just finished uttering strange oaths after foozling my approach shot when a playing partner told me what I'm sure is an old joke ( but one I'd never heard before): You know why it's called golf, right? Because "********!" was already taken.

    I miss being able to play soccer.
     
  11. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
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    So we are awarding goals to people because they probably will score? This is getting a little silly.
     
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  12. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    We award goals to guys who hop, skip, and jump from the penalty spot, despite them having nothing to do with the foul that led to the penalty. Which reminds me, I believe the guy that gets fouled should be the guy that has to take the penalty.
     
  13. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Well he does score a goal after all.

    I like your other idea though.
     
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  14. mace

    mace Member+

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    Jun 5, 2004
    USA
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    #2189 mace, Aug 7, 2022
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    Awesome he got the credit! Nice cherry on top to his debut sundae.

    That tweet mysteriously still doesn’t show that angle from minute mark 77:00 of the broadcast, which was way clearer than the other angles (IMHO). But hey, it’s a moot point now (hopefully)!

    edit: Just realized he only gets the goal on club records? Official premier league site has it as an own goal. How does that work….club stats different than league stats for goals scored? Was that tweet only being cheeky ?
     
  15. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Considering trends it may be more a matter of when rather than if.

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  16. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

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    That's pretty much the answer.

    There is really such a thing as the Dubious Goals Committee which adjudicates any disputes such as this. We can assume this will be placed on their docket by the club soon.
     
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  17. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
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    Manchester United FC
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    Leeds will credit it to Brenden for a few days, maybe even a couple of weeks, but in long term they'll go with what the EPL decides because the league stats are the official figures and a club's data are their disagreements.

    And I wouldn't be surprised if there's some protocol somewhere that requires clubs to use the league's data.
     
  18. Numero Dos

    Numero Dos Member

    Sep 8, 2001
    Houston, TX
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    The timing and angle of his foot movement tracks the path of the ball. He snaps his ankle upwards at just the same time as the ball starts to rise. I think he scored it.
     
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  19. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
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    This is a situation where he most certainly scores but okay boss.
     
  20. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    We've always counted almost-assists, could-have-been-goals, nearly-dangerous passes, and "he drew defenders away so others could score." Why should we change?
     
  21. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
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    If you haven’t watched the super slomo at minute 77, you shouldn’t be opining on what you think is a goal. Explain to me where he touches the ball in that sequence. If you watch that slomo you’ll see that awarding an own goal makes perfect sense barring some other angle that shows clear contact. His foot trails the play. I have BA in my fantasy team so I’d love it if it were his - but I just don’t see it.
     
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  22. mace

    mace Member+

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    Jun 5, 2004
    USA
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    Chicago Fire
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    United States
    This situation has been a life lesson: Choose your sources of information wisely.

    In this trivial case, without taking into account that goal line slow-mo angle at minute 77:00 you are in the dark.
     
  23. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    If you look at frames 103-114 carefully, you will see the ball moves back and to the left. Back … and to the left.
     
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  24. bct81

    bct81 Member+

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    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
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    "at this point what difference does it make?"
     
  25. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
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    DC United
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