Christian Pulisic at AC Milan

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Balerion, Jun 30, 2014.

  1. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    To be fair, stats can be presented in many different ways to support an argument.

    With that said, I think Kai is very talented but overrated at the moment.
     
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  2. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    It's definitely deceptive. I think Havertz had something like 4 goals and 4 assists last season against the bottom 3.
     
  3. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
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    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    and Odoi headed to Newcastle?
     
  4. derek750

    derek750 Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
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    Some rumors it might be a loan. Imagine spending €165 million for the privilege of loaning two strikers back to the teams they used to play for. :eek:
     
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  5. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
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    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

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    Crazy move for me considering the lack of other forward options at Chelsea. Werner must have demanded the exit. He’s a flawed player, but one of the few Chelsea players seemingly capable of destabilizing the defense with his speed. He causes problems and opens up space, even if he hasn’t been able to finish his chances.
     
  7. Eliezar

    Eliezar Member+

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    isn’t that the point. That he was good against teams not on the EPL level but ineffective vs EPL quality sides?
     
  8. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    He scored the winner in a CL final. How do you explain that?
     
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  9. Eliezar

    Eliezar Member+

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    first, that was a different season with different players.

    Second if we evaluate players based on one event we get silly ideas.

    Jovan Kirovski scored in the champions league semis to get his team into the final. How do you explain that?

    That champions league final goal year KH had 4 goals in 27 appearances. You can add 5 assists and it’s still only a goal/assist per every 3 games.

    Now in Germany he was something else…
     
  10. hava

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    Hard to explain something that never happened.
     
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  11. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
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    What does Havertz have to do with Pulisic? CF isn't Havertz's best position but CP isn't going to fill it. Chelsea has been looking for a top CF but not looking great to sign one this window.
     
  12. PaulGascoigne

    PaulGascoigne Member+

    Feb 5, 2001
    Aotearoa/NZ
    I read Leicester somewhere. Either way, getting out of a logjam to a lower level club where he'll have more chances to develop would be good for him. He still has some upside, although it might be at wingback.

    CP showed some pretty good moves on that play vs. the GK late in the game. No one else on that team could have made that move in a month of Sundays except for Sterling. He's going to get his chance.
     
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  13. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    wasn't that in garbage time?
     
  14. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
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    Sterling does this and is a more complete player.
     
  15. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

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    Agree but they need more than Sterling.
     
  16. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

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    They do and have been trying. On another note, Man City looks like they will be ridiculous with Haaland. Going to be difficult for them not to win the league.
     
  17. USA-Zebuel

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    Those are the types of clown show deals that CFC deserve. Lol.

    8th place this year
     
  18. Eliezar

    Eliezar Member+

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    He scored when a goal the other direction knocked them out if I remember right. It’s been 25 years ;)
     
  19. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    True - just not sure Werner is the one to improve them.
     
  20. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
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    Well Puli appears 4th choice across the Sterling/Kai/Mount front 3.

    But I expect Mount to play a fair amount in midfield and Puli to rotate frequently into getting starts. Stacked schedule. Kai having up and down form. Sterling won't start every match.

    I bet Puli starts 50%+ of matches he's healthy for.

    One thing about Tuchel is if something isn't working, he changes the lineup quickly. He's not gonna watch too many matches where Kai/Mount were as poor as they were and not rotate Puli in.

    Of course, Kai/Mount were used incorrectly but that's another discussion.
     
  21. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    These managers that can only think creatively about defense are overrated.
     
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  22. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    It was a miracle...Dough Flutie kind of miracle lol.
     
  23. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    Not any longer. With the new ownership, I expect future CFC deals to be more purposely and measured. Which I think is good for the league and soccer overall.

    Those huge mega deals for Neymar, Dembele, etc. were more harmful than good for soccer, in general.
     
  24. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    Crazy, but I think CP might have more chances at the attack with City instead of CFC (assuming Timo, CHO, and Ziyech stay).

    Who does City have at winger, attacking forward? Folden, Grealish, Mahrez, who else?
     
  25. PaulGascoigne

    PaulGascoigne Member+

    Feb 5, 2001
    Aotearoa/NZ
    I don't think it's that crazy. They score more goals and a higher percentage of the goals they score are scored by attackers. Then again, if Chelsea can get a decent guy up top, he might start doing better at Chelsea as well. I'd think Sterling and CP out there together could be really disruptive. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but I'd love to see them at least try it a few times.
     

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