The USMNT 26-man roster for World Cup 2022 announced p80 #1991

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Rangerses playing out of Ibrox have won just 1 Champions League game in 14 years (Bursaspor 2010). That’s 0 (zero) wins in 7 qualifying games and 1 win in 16 Champions League games. 1 win in 23 total Champions League games.

 

He was in the hunt for a move away from Bayern. The call up goes on his CV. Mission accomplished.

 

It was necessary to cap-tie him. It made total sense.

 

It made about as much sense as cap tying Julian Green.

 

He made the one-time switch from Germany to USA. A single cap then makes him ineligible to switch back. You see? Now he plays for the USA or nuttin. If you wait for him to change his mind, it's too late.

 

If he was good enough to play for Germany, he would've been playing for the senior teams for both the country and the club (Bayern).

Gregg should've called up other players.

 

(1) The Germans were pissed. He is a talent.
(2) It's not an either-or proposition. Gregg called up who he wanted, plus Tillman.

 

1. Some Germans but not the Senior German national team coach.
2. We have a pool full of talented players. There is a handful of players, that are more talented than Tillman.

 

You completely miss the point. There was a checkbox that needed checking, and Gregg checked it. Tillman is a highly rated attacking midfielder who was recruited for a long time to switch from Germany to USA. He finally accepted and made the switch. Now you reward him with a cap, and in doing so, he is cap-tied. Done.

It has nothing to do with Qatar. Berhalter already had the players he needed to see in camp. This was one more. He also got to have a look at him, but he's really a player for 2026. Calling up Tillman didn't prevent anyone else from coming to camp.

https://sbisoccer.com/2022/07/reyna-musah-tillman-advance-in-golden-boy-award-voting

 

You’re not naming any! Who should he have called up instead? Who was glaringly more deserving of a call up instead of Tillman?

 

Wright want given much of a chance IMO.

 

More deserving, as in someone who was producing at a higher level than the Regionalliga?

Okay, here ya go:

B. Gutierrez
Pomykal
P. Aaronson
D. Luna
Cade Cowell
Mihailovic
A. Sonora

He could even have called up T. Booth, who played on the same team as Tillman and who had about as many goals and assists as him.

 

Why? Because he wasn't given playing time with all the starters? So instead he stood around when he did get on the field. He did not look like he belonged and hardly looked motivated at all.

 

What would be the point in calling any of them in? None of them have a shot at the WC in 3 months. What would have been the goal in calling in P Aaronson? None. I want to see all of these called in but there was no point in calling them in last month. The point in calling in Tillman was to cap tie him and a "thank you" for switching.
Liking a player is not enough of a reason to call them in to a national team camp. Camps are limited and thus individual call in are really valuable. The coach also need to be thinking long term, well after he is gone.

 

Okay, so leave Aaronson, Luna, and Cowell at home for Nations League, instead of kicking the ---- out of Concacaf to the tune of a 31-2 scoreline, (29-0 if you throw out Canada's bunk, ridiculous goals) in U20/Olympic Qualifying in Honduras, our greatest regional qualifying campaign EVER, w/mostly a B team to boot.

In what world does that make any sense?


Calling up Tillman made infinitely more sense than pretty much anything there you list at all other than Mihailovic whom, if memory serves, got injured and couldn't participate anyway after he actually was called up for it (and I would've called Tillman up ahead of him anyway).

 

Aaronson is young a player, who is more talented than Julian Green was, when he made the World Cup roster. Experience is good these young elite players.

 

We could've called up Booth or Gutierrez.

 

Shrug. We know why Tillman was called up.

We got him to switch allegiances. His reward was an opportunity in that camp. That's the way it works.

He's on the road back after the ACL tear he suffered in late 2020. Last season he only appeared in 15 games in the German 4th division (and 2 token senior team appearances).

He'll either prove himself at Rangers, or he won't.

Some of these names people are talking about as alternatives are comical.
Brian Gutierrez didn't even make our U20 CONCACAF Championships roster.
What are we talking about here?

 

move always hated callups that only have the purpose of cap tying, but IF it was partly to show appreciation AND it was communicated that he was way down the depth chart for 2022 but with 2026 as a realistic target (depending on him of course) I’d be fine with it. I hope he wasn’t cap tied just to cap tie

edit: I don’t know about anyone else, but if my goal was to make the 2022 squad and especially if I was led to believe that was a realistic goal, I wouldn’t consider a consolation cap as a thank you that would not satisfy me. It’s all in the communication.

 

I think it is just pretty clear that you don't rate Tillman as strongly as Berhalter or some here. Which is fine.

I think he actually showed a ton of potential; I love his style of game and he's playing well for Rangers in a couple of games so far.

You seem pretty focused on the regionalia thing, but it's not like he really had a choice there. Chris Richards was only in the 3. Bundi until he wasn't.

I think people are going to be surprised how effective he ends up being. I'd definitely put him above Gutierrez, who I like, and a number of those other guys.

 

Seriously?

 

Yes, seriously. Come back to this post in 2 or 3 years.

 

In two or three years any number of players who currently aren't in the picture for the 2022 WC could become awesome players, nearly written in pen into a lineup. But that's 2 or 3 years after the 2022 WC.

 

And I bet that people will agree then, that we should've called them up sooner.

 

You don't have to worry about me coming back and eating crow. I was a huge Johann Smith guy, a huge fan of Carleton and Wright, a bit Taitague guy (bad luck) and Renken and Gyau and on and on. I own all my stupidity and bad luck in propping guys. I am not the sort that thinks I'm gonna win something just because I was propping Weah the whole time, or because I was always a huge fan of Richards, or Dest, or whatever. I also was a huge huge huge fan of Sargent. You don't win anything for being right or wrong in here, I just prefer to learn something, and argue my points with integrity. I thought Eddie Johnson, Bobby Convey, Justin Mapp and Eddie Gaven were more exciting than Dempsey until like '06 after all, I've been wrong plenty, and right sometimes, just like anybody.

I just happen to think your take on tillman is really, really odd. To be so aggressively anti-Tillman just makes zero sense at all to me. He's been a very exciting prospect that I never thought we had a chance to turn period and so never seriously scouted him, him going with us in May was utterly shocking. We'll see if he goes the way of Julian Green and his brother Tim, or closer to Alphonso, or more the middle road like Richards. I tend to think the latter of all the possibilities but we'll see. I think he's gonna turn into a good pro, not a superstar, but a good player.