England U-19 Discussion Thread #3 (2005 born) [R]

Discussion in 'England' started by revelationx, Feb 22, 2011.

  1. e1oreman

    e1oreman Member

    Nov 8, 2020
     
  2. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Dane Scarlett season long loan to Portsmouth confirmed.

    Callum Doyle is on loan at Coventry this season.
     
  3. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
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    Nov 5, 2021
    #8103 Fireburn47, Aug 2, 2022
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    Carney has just signed for Chelsea. Doesn’t seem like they going to loan him straight back out to another PL club but I do wonder how he will develop. I can’t imagine him getting lots of game time at least at first.
     
  4. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    I hope he likes warming the bench and being loaned to random Dutch teams because that's what his career will amount to at Chelsea.
    Huge mistake from him. I blame his advisors.
     
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  5. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I don’t think he is set for a loan to Vitesse through that often seems to work for Chelsea’s players now. If he does get loaned at some point it could be to a promotion chalking championship side or another PL team.

    He did seem to want to go to a big club but there were others in Europe who would have offered more playing time while still being prestigious.
     
  6. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    Kante is 31 and his contract expires next year, Jorginho is 30 and his contract also expires next year. There is an opportunity to be taken there.
     
  7. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I think he would have to have a very good season to be allowed to be one of their replacements rather than someone else being brought in if either or both leave.
     
  8. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    That’s very optimistic though surely? We all know Chelsea will buy new midfielders to replace them rather than play a young 19 year old. Hope I’m wrong and you’re right though but just can’t see the chances he would have had if he had joined a team like Dortmund for example. Quite disappointing considering I thought he was leaving Villa for first team football.
     
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  9. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I can’t imagine he seriously thinks he will get more game time this season at Chelsea than Villa. It’s big gamble for him but i hope it works out well.
     
  10. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    I think that's a statement of the obvious.

    A lot of the young players around the England squad did establish themselves at a big club at a similar age. If you can't do it you're probably not going to improve the senior squad any time soon either.
     
  11. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    True. Not many do it at biggest clubs now a days through without a loan to get 30+ starts in a season.
     
  12. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    I could see him deputise for Mount but then I think he’s an attacking midfielder and not a central one. It would be good if they signed KWP too. Their English contingent would be pretty high then. Chukwuemeka will probably go out on loan though.
     
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  13. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #8113 Fireburn47, Aug 2, 2022
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2022
    It doesn’t seem that he will go on loan going by reports through that would be both logical and fit Chelsea. At least one of Ross Barkley or Ruben Loftus Cheek will likely leave them through.

    Cheslea have just also brought a goalkeeper younger than Teddy Sharman - Lowe so I wonder what his future will be.
     
  14. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Looks like Charlie Patino is off on loan from Arsenal to Blackpool for the season.
     
  15. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    If he was playing for Neil Critchley then I would think it’s a good move but Appleton, I’m not so sure….
     
  16. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Carney off to Chelsea for 20 million
     
  17. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Really? I don’t think anyone had noticed. ;)
     
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  18. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    The Evening Standard are saying it’s not yet decided if Carney is going on loan or not. But that he is seen as a long term replacement for Kante and Jorghino.
     
  19. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Oops didn't see the earlier posts
     
  20. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
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  21. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    No Loan for Carney Chukwuemeka this season. Be interesting to see just how much playing time he gets.
     
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  22. Slater582

    Slater582 Member

    Jul 21, 2008
    Shrewsbury, England
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    #8122 Slater582, Aug 4, 2022
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2022
    I expect the UEFA Technical report for the tournament this summer will be published next month.



    Thought that was an interesting analysis of the system.:thumbsup:

    Daniel Oyegoke is another.

    The under-19 qualifying round is in Denmark next month so I assume all the '04 born players will be playing in that. Particularly as they don't seem anywhere near as talented as the year above. Not sure there even will be U20 elite league fixtures given the truncated season.
     
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  23. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Maybe he gets a few run outs from the bench and maybe some Cup games but can’t see that much. This is the thing that bugs me, if it’s game time he really wanted ( which I thought was behind him moving ) then I don’t see how this move trumps what Villa would have offered him. If he ends up playing mostly U23 football then that would be a huge disappointment. Hope I’m wrong for his sake but whilst the market is still open, maybe some Chelsea midfielders will move on to pastures new and Carney can fill those holes.
     
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  24. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I don’t think he will play a lot of under 23 matches and also be a full member of the senior squad in terms of training which seems to be the plan for him. Harvey Vale made a few senior benches last season while still playing under 23 matches but I don’t think he was always training with the seniors.
     
  25. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
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    The reports say that Tuchel has personally told him that he's ready to help the first time right now.
     

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