Going to Qatar 2022: tickets, accommodations, etc. (non-politics)

You are the one that gives info and claims its rumors, then won't disclose where you got info from. So maybe you are just imagining everything and we should all ignore what you say

 

Check this year's forecast for Nov. 2022: https://weather.com/weather/monthly...1ad784c244d497155a7729d6a2aa6b295c5126ed0e221
83F High and 66F Low on Nov. 21.
Dec. 2022: https://weather.com/weather/monthly...1ad784c244d497155a7729d6a2aa6b295c5126ed0e221
74F High and 58F Low on Dec. 19.

Here's last year's data:
Nov. 2021: https://weather.com/weather/monthly...1ad784c244d497155a7729d6a2aa6b295c5126ed0e221
Dec. 2021: https://weather.com/weather/monthly...1ad784c244d497155a7729d6a2aa6b295c5126ed0e221

Looking very pleasant with no extreme swings of temperature.

 

Actually don't you know that Canada orchestrated the entire pandemic just so the seis became ocho? Justin brought the virus back with him on a secret training mission to China...

 

Hmmm. I already told you that it was a rumour. Would you like me to verify the veracity of the rumour? I don't know how to do that! It was suggested by a Qatari official on vacation in Bangkok.

I also heard a rumour that Insigne and Bernardeschi have promoted Canada playing a friendly against Italy in November, but that Mancini is afraid. That one came from a Canadian Italian friend attending a party in Toronto's Little Italy recently.

 

Just curious-
Has anyone booked the Steigenberger at $1000 per night?
Rather bizarrely it seems you can book for the WC but cannot book any date during 2023 on its own corporate website.
Weird

 

I probably hope you are correct.
But if a pre flight PCR was imposed I’d be happy with that if the net effect was that it reduced my chances of being infected on the plane.
Not because I fear Covid, but because I don’t want to be isolated for any of the eight days of my stay.

 

For e-tickets

 

Precisely my concern. BS amplifies quickly. I'm hoping for a BS-free vacation attending the World Cup.

 

And what if I can't attend the match dear FIFA? Who may I transfer MY TICKET to? I don't like authoritarians infringing on my freedoms. I paid for MY TICKET and yet I can't transfer it to someone?

 

And yet you are probably one that complains of resellers. Not everything can be perfect.

 

I've made my position crystal clear: all efforts to minimize large scale procurement of tickets by organizations intending to profit on their resale should be made in order to protect the fan's right to reasonable access to tickets at the minimum cost possible.

However, that is NOT what FIFA does. Instead, FIFA has applied an authoritarian one solution fits all approach whereby a fan cannot resell an unwanted ticket without taking a financial hit, and cannot resell the applicant's ticket without his "guests" losing their tickets too. Once I have legitimately purchased my tickets, they should be mine to do with it as I please. Sell it, trade it, gift it, use it or not use it. I repeatedly have suggested that FIFA could easily regulate the sale of tickets by using simple algorithms that flush out mass or fraudulent purchases. It would not be perfect without imposing onerous restrictions that would snag honest situations, but it is not hard to link a name to a passport to a credit card to an address. I don't know what game FIFA is playing, but my best guess is that their first goal is to maximize sales regardless of the buyer while virtue-signalling about anti-touting, knowing very well they are not accomplishing the latter but rather are just making the life of many genuine fans more complicated than it needs to be. Typical group-think bureaucratic approach traditionally most typical of mainland Europe but that now seems to be spreading. Wait to see what happens in Sri Lanka now that their government blindly followed imbecilic WEF fertilizer objectives. Many may not see the connection, but a lot of this stems from the same mindset.

 

Want to get rid of touts and illegal resell? Enforce the same name match on tickets and Hayya, it’s like taking a plane, if your name on the ticket doesn’t match your ID you’re not allowed to board. I know it would create some chaos at the stadiums’ entrances but I think that’ll be the easiest way, of course that would mean that the demand would be almost 100% real with FIFA running the risk of not having full stadiums. I know it’s not going to happen but I think they could do it if they wanted. If you knew for sure that if your name is not on the ticket you can’t go in, no one would even bother to look for tickets in the secondary market.

 

Sorry but that is a terrible idea! We would stuck 4 hours outside stadiums to enter, people would get hurt and the matches would start with less than half of the capacity!

 

I travelled from Moscow to st Petersburg and meet 2 guys who had sponsor's tkts .There was no names on their tkts

 

I agree there are probably technological solutions to mass ticket buying that FIFA could have implemented. For all we know, FIFA did implement some measures in that regard, and and some big-time touts have already been caught. It would not surprise me if some of that is happening behind the scenes.

But there is probably some value to the transfer restrictions as well, annoying as those rules may be to us regular fans. First, the rules are relatively easy to explain, and we all in theory knew and understood them up front. There is value to the transparency. If you didn't want to be saddled with extra tickets, then you should not have bought them. (That applies to me as well, since I do have some extra tickets I'll probably take a hit for -- but I knew that going in.) Second, the restriction on transferring the main ticket obviously won't stop touting altogether. But it is a speed bump, and probably puts a dent in the touts' activities. If you figure the tout has to eat the main ticket, then they will have to make more of a profit on the 5 guest tickets for the transaction to pencil out. It's basically a 20% surcharge on each of the 5 guest tickets. For some mid-demand games, that 20% loss per ticket may be enough to keep the touts away. Yes, it will still pencil out for the touts to buy high-demand games like ARG-MEX, since they can probably resell the tickets at more than 20% over face value, and earn a net profit. But with this regime, FIFA has still left some additional tickets to some games for the real fans to buy at face value. FIFA apparently has deemed that to be worth putting in the restrictions. You can debate if it is worth it, but I'll give FIFA the benefit of the doubt. Also, some touts may try to resell the main ticket with a burner phone or something, but that is also a speed bump for the tout as some customers may not be willing to transact in that way. (Again, I think FIFA botched a lot of other things -- I am not a FIFA apologist.)

 

I get it, it would be a game changer, and painful at first, but why then have that rule if you don’t enforce it? It’s only a couple of scans, 1 for the ticket, 1 for your Fan ID, if they don’t match, step aside, or go to an office to sort it out, after people know they have to make sure their name on tickets have to match their FAN ID you would see less and less mismatches, again I don’t see this happening since it’s been 4 WC at least with names on tickets and it has never been enforced, but that would be the way to get rid of the illegal resell issue.

 

Agree, sponsor’s, federations’ and other likewise tickets don’t have names on them, so the matching rule don’t apply to them, you would at least get rid of 70% of the problem, there are of course some of these tickets in the secondary markets but the ones used by the sponsors and federations usually go to the right people, customers, affiliates, top employees and board members, etc. The rest are usually returned to FIFA to be sold on their site.

 

FIFA just called about my local tickets… very polite wanted to know about my residence in Qatar. The guy spoke perfect South American Spanish, the phone number was from Switzerland . I believe they’re auditing …

 

Ruh roh

 

I agree with you that the restrictions work as speed bumps and serve to lower prices as more people choose to resell through FIFA (which also racks in more fees) at FB.

I also share DJknox's frustration in that it is punitive to regular ticket owners that want to be safe in getting many tickets if they're lucky in entering the ticket shopping area.

In my case, I wish I would've know the main changes for this WC (electronic tickets/main applicant can't sell to others/can't sell to FIFA unless you sell all tickets for that game) before buying my tickets for my own benefit and others who could have snatched them. I understand these new rules were public so I guess I didn't do my homework (wasn't expecting to even have the chance) and won't complain, but I bet many regular ticket holders also regret not knowing, whereas the touts should know because it's their job/capital at risk.

 

Quick accommodation question. There are minimum rules - minimum 2 nights or 3 nights for bookings (depending on type of accommodation). If I book say 3 nights because 4th night is not available at the moment, can I call and ask for adding one additional night if it becomes available? Or not really and I must meet another minimum days requirement and book it for longer?

I wonder if they will eventually allow one day bookings. What if you have one day hole between your existing bookings? You're sleeping on the street?? [emoji3]

 

I don't care if somebody wants to buy my ticket from me and sell it to someone else at a profit - that's capitalism - they're providing a service and investing time to bring value to the final buyer. Of course I don't like someone buying it from me with false pretenses, but that's under my control. Just stop the mass purchase of tickets for the distinct purpose of resale because it makes ticket availability at reasonable prices scarce. If I decide last minute to buy a ticket to the Finals, I expect to pay market value for it, unless I get lucky. FIFA is trying to interfere with human nature - which is to sell a possession for what it's worth, as determined by a free market. Note promoters colluding with a reseller is not a free market.

 

That 'minimum stay' part is very confusing to me, I check the Clusters few days ago and only 1 day was available to book, I believe it was November 29.

How will anyone be able to book that then?

 

That’s how 100% of tickets are sold in the US. If you can’t pay market value; you just don’t go. Ticketmaster has a platform for reselling (touting), they get a slice off every ticket. …. 2026 will be incredibly fun. Euros are gonna have their panties in a bunch when they see what North America lays out .