Summer 2022 Transfer Thread - What's next???

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  1. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll give the unsatisfying hedge: serious if true. A lot of what she's posted looks credible. Some stuff looks a bit crazy but also could be the result of some form of PTSD, which of course would be understandable for someone who'd suffered trauma. And yeah, I agree with Jitty, I doubt this will completely be resolved any time soon.
     
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  2. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    [redacted]
     
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  3. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sucks. Also sucks for his teammates who are training & playing every day with a potential rapist. Praying this is resolved sooner rather than later!!
     
  4. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Claims that Torreira is close to agreeing personal terms with Galatasaray...

     
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  5. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  6. footykid

    footykid Member+

    Jan 10, 2005
    Mississauga, Ont
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I'd hedge against any real charges, soley based on the police or investigating constables are unlikely to have encouraged her to tweet substantial parts of the case.

    The texts might imply lack of consent, but I dunno man the metoo era zeal to prosecute has kinda run dry. But, Partey is black so who knows.

    As to his teammates... Honestly I doubt they really care. "Bird problems" is part and parcel of pro sports such as it is.
     
  7. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I'm just not sure why she would come out and say this unless it's mostly true.

    I know a lot of people are excited for this season and excited for Arsenal, but I am not. Partey has killed any excitement I have for this club. He shouldn't be out there until this all is resolved.

    I know you don't read twitter, or maybe don't know how, but a teammate allegedly knew and decided to go the chaos route and spread stories about her.

    She claims it's in the police report.
     
  8. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  9. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Most of the NDAs I've had to do have involved "here's our secret tech, you can't tell anyone about it," and that usually doesn't involve "you can't talk to the cops."

    Speaking hypothetically, were I drafting an NDA for a situation like this,* IMO it would be negligent to not include a provision along the lines of "you're being paid $X to settle any claims related to any and all interactions with person Y, and that means you can't talk about interactions with person Y, including talking to the police." At least under US law.

    Whether a UK court would enforce that, I have no idea.


    *The odds of me doing that are essentially 0 - I've done enough pro bono work for DV victims to make the concept horrifying.
     
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  10. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    There are enough forms out there that you could probably put together an NDA in about thirty minutes. Getting it signed and paid would take longer, but a motivated party could get everything lined up in a day.
     
  11. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Saliba & Martinelli are 21. They are now HG. Also as other mentioned Bellerin is HG.

    So we currently have 10 HG with Bellerin, AMN & Nelson possible/likely to leave.

    Non-HG... Pepe, Torreira, Mari & Runarsson are the most likely to leave with Torreira & Mari seeming to be close.
     
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  12. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I looked at what she tweeted and, while we only have her side of the story and she's not the most articulate person on twitter, she seems rather credible.
     
  13. leppercut

    leppercut Member+

    Oct 10, 2006
    SLC and Anchorage
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fab on it


    ooof
     
  14. KevinJRogers

    KevinJRogers Member

    NYCFC | VfB Stuttgart
    United States
    Jan 29, 2022
    Clifton Park, N.Y.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ouch. I'm a VfB man in the Bundesliga, so this one stings a little.

    In Sven's defense, a lot of that disparity has to do with factors out of his control, especially when it comes to Aubameyang. No one could have predicted things ending so badly there.

    But it's still an "ouch." :laugh:
     
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  15. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    I believe the cutoff is January 1, 2022. Saliba and Martinelli were both still 20 as of that date, so they still count as u21 for this season. Next year they will bump up to over-21 HG.
     
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  16. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow "bird problems"... that's really cynical and I really hope (for humanity's sake) that's not how most of them see it If I had to work with someone who was a rapist (or even an accused, possible rapist) I would not be happy.
     
  17. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If true, ugh. I wouldn't be happy with that if I was the board or KSE. Based on his time at AFC, I don't know what to think about Sven. Just happy we have more harmony and victory these days. Hmm... where have I heard those words before?
     
  18. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Don’t forget that Kobe Bryant went through something similar and it didn’t appear to affect his relationship with his teammates. His case also demonstrates how hard it is, at least in the US, to prosecute a he said, she said sexual assault allegation. Successful celebrity prosecutions usually involve multiple she said allegations.
     
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  19. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And to clarify, when I said some of her Tweets seemed a bit wacky, it was those in which she admitted she was "drunk" tweeting.
     
  20. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    That is my starting point on these things.
     
  21. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Something I was wondering about - is I think you'd have to be careful you didn't start creating crime documentation? i.e. covering up a crime via paying off witnesses?
     
  22. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Don’t have to look far to see how the men’s sporting world regards women—today Deshaun Watson of the NFL was suspended for 6 games for sexually assaulting 24 (and probably more) women. That’s about one quarter of an NFL game per case. The arbitrator of the case made special note of the fact that none of the cases were “violent” sexual assaults. Very cool!
     
  23. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It’s such a murky subject

    antone could say anything, you wouldn’t know if anything was true unless it was filmed etc

    I don’t know what to believe. It’s a shit situation for both parties
     
  24. leppercut

    leppercut Member+

    Oct 10, 2006
    SLC and Anchorage
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hopefully, we can get Tielemans soon. Feel like we need him with the 5 subs this year.
     
  25. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Not really something you can put in a contract.
     

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