For me he fits because he is quick enough to play on the wing. I wouldn’t splash big cash on him, but a loan with OPTION to buy would be cool.
Could be a decent Callejon-like option on the right side, quick hard worker who can get into advanced positions. His finishing has been very shaky at Chelsea, and you arguably already have that skillset with Fede, so he might not be a very useful purchase, especially since he can't fill in for Benz.
Agree, he operates well on the RW too, in fact, some suggest that Chelsea were a stronger offensive threat when he played as a winger. The issue is that Carlo makes subs/changes too damn late in any given game, this isn't relevant to just Timo if he arrives but also to Cama and Tchou.
The reported 35m deal is a no-go of course. However, if we could get Timo on a loan deal, it would be a very good. I am not his biggest fan, but I do think he could be a very good fit, due to his pace, hard work and versatility. The market is what it is, not a lot of options. As long as we don't make silly investments with negative long-term effects (Jovic, Mariano come to mind), we're good.
Unless Chelsea bring in someone of top quality, I can't see them getting rid of Werner. Why would they? They've only got Havertz, and he's not really a striker.
Timo is on 10m euro net per year. That’s a lot of dead money to sit on the bench. new owners probably are not inclined to let that slide, but their hands are tied. There is no market for him for what they paid for or what they are paying him currently. I’d take him for a loan of one year, with no forced but optional buy option. He’d be in the mix for minutes, as we don’t have a RW that’s good right now. Problem is Asensio. Unless he’s willing to leave Werner is not an option.
Yes, I prefer a loan deal with no obligation to buy. Asensio is on €9.8 mil net and he's plain shit. He absolutely needs to go, an incoming Timo should accelerate that. Asensio is pretty comfortable with the idea that he's the closest thing we have to a RW and he's banking on that. Asensio and Mariano leaving will be like winning a trophy for me.
Asensio is on 6 ME nett like Jovic was. 10 ME is around Modric, Benz range. Asensio staying is not some disaster . He scored 10 league goals last season and some of them were in important 1-0 wins. Rodrygo/Fede will play the most on the right so Asensio is additional back up. If Werner was a better scoring option at RW than Rodrygo, Chelsea would have kept him. He's a back up option at best. And Fede starting is a tactical need to provide legs in a KCM line up.
Yes my bad, Asensio actually earns around €4.7mil net. Timo gets €9.5mil. Neither Fede nor Asensio are RWs. I'd rather see a capable RW than see Asensio get any minutes. I'm sorry dude, Asensio is an eye soar. Asensio was the lone scorer in 1 game last season vs Granada. Most of his other goals were in games we won by +4 goals.
3 of them came against Mallorca - a hat trick early in the season. Considering they were an absolute shambles, that’s not impressive. Even the goal he scored last night he took away from LV who was on the back post. You could see his body language when Ansensio scored. Asensio has so much hubris he thinks he’s going to get a big contract either with us or somewhere else. He’s staying this season and going to eek out minutes based on being the next man up, assuming Rodryo and Hazard play like they did last year.
Asensio has one year left on his deal. If Timo is not a loan deal, we basically lock ourselves into another deadweight for 5 more years. Asensio for a year might be a better solution beyond 2023. Little Pea or Adebayor was different from Timo. They both caught up in a situation where they could not play in their club. They wanted to get out. Suddenly, they were sent to the best club in the world. Timo on the other hand has a World Cup to think about. If Chelsea keeps him, he might have the same amount of PT as in here. He also has other options. I doubt that he wants that one year deal.
I think a loan deal is best Chelsea can get for Werner given his underwhelming 2 seasons there. No team will want him to buy outright or have a mandatory clause for next summer. I reckon Juve is most likely option if Morata stays at Atletico.
Is he going to be the Real Madrid starting striker in 2023? or 2024? Edited: He has 10 goals in two seasons over there. If we give him a 5 year contract, what do you expect of him?
Not panicking in July and just buying some finished player at least gives you the option to be in play when opportunities arise in august. Opportunities Like disgruntled players who want out or clubs trying to get a player out. Boom, loan deal or a low ball offer for a attacking player. Not that it’s gonna happen but Werner would be a better option than a lot of names we’ve discussed. I say keep patient, we might get a very decent player if we wait. If we don’t get any such opportunities and our need becomes urgent in October/November we can spend money in the winter window. Focus on selling 1-2 players. Even if it’s low transfer fee.
As I've said before, I would like to see him on a loan with an option to buy. I think if he does come (on loan), he'll be deployed as a RW and not as a striker, meaning he'll get more minutes as we don't have a reliable and consistent RW and he'll push Asensio out of the club. I've seen him in a few games, definitely don't see him as a deadweight ala Jovic, Asensio or Mariano. Is he top-class? No. But I think he'd be a very good addition to the squad.
I never said that I was against a loan with him. I said: "If Timo is not a loan deal, we basically lock ourselves into another deadweight for 5 more years."
Fair enough. I just don't see the dude as a deadweight loan or full contract. In the latter case, I'd label the deal as "risky". He's not the Jovic (lazy), Asensio (inept) and Mariano (clown) type. Given every other option on the table (including Dzeko), Werner as a RW on loan and RDT as a €30mil backup for Benzema + Asensio and Mariano removed from the roster would be ideal, we would have an incredibly versatile squad but that's just me, it most likely won't happen. While we're talking wishes, Pedro Porro (Sporting Lisbon) at RB what do you guys think?
For the millionth time, we’re not in the market for a RB. Dani has a deal through 2025 and LV is more than fine as a back up, as his contract is up in 2024.
Would Chelsea be interested in Asensio or Mariano? Can some one show them Asensio left rocket goals reel highlights lol