Christian Pulisic at AC Milan

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Balerion, Jun 30, 2014.

  1. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
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    United States
    I have a different take about Tuchel's statement. I think he is acknowledging the BIG problem that Chelsea presently faces: They have too many players in need of moves, either desired or because they are being pushed out, and can't move them for one reason or another. Plus, they are not able to complete the tasks (money, contractual benefits, sweet talk) required to secure the necessary new players, again for one reason or another.

    In other words, Tuchel's statement, "We have the same issues because we have the same players,"is achieved is pretty much correct and not aimed at anyone in particular. The result is that the team is in limbo and will have difficulty moving forward until much greater stability (i.e., more movement toward a final roster that includes new guys accompanied by the departure of some others) . IMHO, Tuchel is not throwing players under the bus. Rather, he's just talking transitional (transfer window) reality which, according to some pundits, can be laid at the feet of Todd Boehly, the transactionally naive new owner.
     
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  2. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    So, he's throwing the new owner under the bus?

    Either way, nothing good comes out of it.
     
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  3. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    That's a color commentator I would watch!
     
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  4. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Or, maybe, he could just develop a system for goal scoring.
     
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  5. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    His full quotes talked about needing more quality players. He said the two he just brought in are quality, but he needs more like them. It can be debated I suppose but I don’t think the two players he just brought in are clearly better than the players he’s had so far at Chelsea. I’m pretty sure the returning players will feel that way as well. It’s an expensive roster so I’d advise the owner to find a manager that is a little more bullish on the players available.
     
  6. RecLeague Super Sub

    Fulham
    United States
    Jun 5, 2019
    Yes, it’s just preseason. But I’m glad many of you agree that yesterdays loss seemed like a big signal of things to come.
    I predict Chelsea will finally finish outside the top 4 (and may be lucky to secure Europa). Losing that many in the back line was always gonna cause a problem, and opponents are smelling blood in the water as they circle Chelsea.
    I think this may be Pulisic’s toughest, ugliest season there yet, and I would be fine if he moved to another team or another league. I still think Serie A would be a nice fit, and I may be too optimistic, but I still think there is a world-beater offensive player in there, if he is lucky enough to find the right coach in the right tactical situation.
     
  7. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    I hate the Dodgers and the owner is looking like he’s going to make it easier to hate Chelsea. If that’s possible.
     
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  8. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    watching RM versus Barca was interesting in that Christensen and Rudy looked just fine and rolled right into place.

    Let's see Man City get Haaland and he starts clicking with KDB and Grealish - watch out.

    Chelsea gets Sterling and Koulibaly so far.

    But the offense looked anemic against Arsenal and the only player gone so far is big Rom.

    The lack of clicking on offense is on the coach .... subtract Rom and add Raheem and you still should have an idea of how to break down Arsenal .... as a team.

    They looked sooooooo predictable and slow. That is a system problem not simply we are in pre season and the travel and humidity and heat just sucks.

    CP repeatedly just took one step forward and looked around and then back passed immediately ... interesting. Rudiger does a 60 yard run and launches a shot from outside the box and puts it off the post. And he smiles afterwards. Tale of two cities. Yes they are paid well but they do need the support of the gaffer.

    Tommy - Timo is paid alot and should be happy to be at Chelsea. So should you.
     
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  9. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    If you look at Chelsea last season, they scored a lot more goals in Sept/Oct (6 of 10 league games were 3 goals or more) than they did in March/April/May - and they had a pretty easy run of games to finish out. 1-1 to ManU, 1-0 to Everton, 1-1 Lester, 2-2 Wolves, 2-0 Spurs and 2 v. Pool was probably their best scoring runs in the new year. They really dried up when their wingbacks got hurt.
     
  10. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
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  11. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
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  12. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Go there and do the digging. It took me long enough to find the minutes, now my eyes are tired.
     
  13. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Not surprising. CP missed most of the August-Oct games - missing 5 of the 6 3+ goal games I mentioned. He missed both N'wich games (total of 10 goals to Chelski) And missed 5 of the 6 Chillwell games, which were also a bit higher scoring than the rest of the season. For whatever reason (I put it to fixture congestion as well as Chillwell then James going down) Chelsea started with a reasonably potent offense (43 league goals in 20 games Fall 2021) but fell off by spring 2022 (33 in 18 games Spring 2022). How much CP (didn't) contribute vs. rest of squad is hard to say, but it's clear the lost potency in league as the season wore on. They had 23 goals in their first 10 games... which was about their best goal scoring patch (helped by that 7 goal spank of Norwich, of course.)
     
  14. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    I was just pointing out some variables. Though I am sure you are aware of them as well.
     
  15. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    There's one place that follows the changes in formation in-game (not for all games, but for nearly all in the big leagues):

    https://www.football-lineups.com/

    Unfortunately it's down now, hopefully not for good.
     
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  16. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Pulisic's +/- numbers were actually pretty good last season. So maybe they were winning 1-0 with him playing rather than losing 3-2 when he wasn't. Regardless, there is no telling at this point who is and is not a good attacker at Chelsea. Everyone looks worse than they are I think. I'd love for Pulisic to go somewhere else (if Tuchel doesn't) just so I can have a better idea of whether or not he is as remarkably average as he has looked at times during Tuchel's tenure. I'd love to see what he can do on a team where he gets the ball in space, with more balanced player numbers in the final third.
     
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  17. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
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  18. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
  19. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
     
  20. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Tuchel didn't specify "slow left footers".
     
  21. USA-Zebuel

    USA-Zebuel Member+

    Mar 26, 2013
    Club:
    Colón de Santa Fe
    I just don’t see how you can make Chelsea more dislike-able.

    I guess if CP didn’t play there it would be easier not to care
     
  22. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    They made themselves even more dislikeable by signing Sterling
     
  23. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Feels like Werner is much more likely to leave than Pulisic

     
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  24. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    Don’t we all
     
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  25. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

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    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
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    Right? I'm showing this to my wife. You never know.
     
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