Christian Pulisic at AC Milan

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Balerion, Jun 30, 2014.

  1. RecLeague Super Sub

    Fulham
    United States
    Jun 5, 2019
    Well, I guess I’m speaking from experience-I was faster at 17 than I was at 23, but I’m
    Not a world class athlete. As Injuries occur and as some have body changes over time, I imagine it happens to others. But I see what you all saying. Still, I wouldn’t get hung up on one word.
     
  2. GreedyG

    GreedyG Member

    Dec 9, 2020
    Need to get Puli on some PEDs.
     
  3. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    There was an ESPN+ article a few months ago that I highly recommend.

    to sum up the pertinent point

    a work class attacker evolves like this

    Teens/early 20s - lots of sprinting and dribbling wins and you tube highlites, mostly on the ball

    Early to mid 20s - a slow change from dribble attacks, sprinting with the ball, to more off ball running, less take ons, more passing, better positioning, and more deadly in a few touches and moves in space (that you earned with your off ball movement)

    Mid 20s to 30 - world class attacker

    that article came out during a poor stretch of play for Pulisic maybe half a year ago with Chelsea when he struggled recovering his from from that ankle injury - It noted that progression with attacking players, and with Pulisic specifically, he wasn’t doing much running OFF the ball.

    So when you hear Pulisic talk, it’s nice to know that he’s protecting his body, but what you should really take away is that he’s realizing his sprinting is better off left OFF THE BALL than in carrying the ball into danger - and that he’s transitioning into a true world class attacker.

    Speed on the ball and dribbling and beating people 1v1 is vastly overrated in this sport. What’s ultimately going to make an attacker successfull is vision, tactical awareness, and enough speed and endurance to take advantage of space off the ball - and technique to be dangerous to take advantage of gained space
     
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  4. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Sterling could actually be a great player to play with and learn from in that regard.
     
  5. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    Movements and attack in those 5 zones is what makes Pep systems so bad ass, so hopefully that can rub off on Pulisic
     
  6. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
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    Of course he didn't expressly admit that he's lost a step, but there was statement that he's playing slower to avoid injury and save his body.
     
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  7. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Yes, when I turned 50 I started moving more slowly to avoid injury and to save my body, too.
     
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  8. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Sterling will still be overplaying and running into dead ends with his head down when he’s in his sixties ..
     
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  9. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

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    Mar 18, 2019
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    This all makes sense to me but I think his off-the-ball pace has dropped too. He used to be Bo Jackson Tecmo Bowl fast getting to a spot in the 18 for a final pass and now he just looks above average for a winger getting to "the spot". IMO, seeing the correct lane in the final 18 is his greatest gift as an attacker. He has a real knack for attacking the box w/o the ball. Just doesn't seem as quick to get there. There was actually an example in this past preseason game where I saw that sprint from him and he was just outpacing his defender rather than leaving him in the dust. In the end there are plenty of elite attackers that only have good to great pace and I think CP is in that category WRT speed. It is just that he used to be elite in that category. I think it could be better for his long-term ability to stay healthy so that is a good thing but all else held equal it sure helps to be able to hit the turbo button. Just hope that boost gets a bit faster as the injuries get further in the rear view.
     
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  10. RecLeague Super Sub

    Fulham
    United States
    Jun 5, 2019
    Again, if anyone watched the America match, I saw plenty of speed and burst. I think it’s still there, but we are all
    Judging off the “eye test.”
    I think he gets slower as season progresses and fatigue sets in, and I get it. The Prem season and all competitions is a damn grind, in addition to international duty.
     
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  11. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

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    Mar 18, 2019
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    It also seems like he gets slower after he starts a legit series of games. He seems like the kind of player that needs a bit more rest. That being said, it is difficult to produce consistently if you are not playing consistently. So what is the proper number of minutes?... and how much time as a starter vs sub? I would prefer more minutes as a starter and less as a sub this season. I would like to see three starts, one sub and one bench per five games.
     
  12. abw

    abw Member+

    Nov 10, 1999
    Athens, GA
    Tuchel has said that he will manage the attackers differently this year because of the allowed five substitutions.
     
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  13. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    What are your attacking options incidentally
     
  14. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    I think a lot of Pulisic's struggles at Chelsea are down to injuries and that people make way too much of his limited minutes because they don't take into account how much of the time he has been out or less than fully fit, not to mention the lack of getting in a good playing rhythm because so many times after a good run he ends up hurt and the need to manage minutes for a often injured player. He's also still growing as a player and can be a bit up and down still, which is typical for a young player. I fully believe if he can have a year of being healthy and mostly available we will see improvements. To be useful to a team at the level of Chelsea that is packed with quality options, nothing less than a 100% Pulisic is good enough. But, a 100% Pulisic is valuable anywhere. If we get to see more of 100% Pulisic, we will see him on the field more often. And for a player still only 23, he has already had a ton of high level success, including big goals and solid games at Chelsea and a few trophies he played his part in winning. A less than 100% Pulisic would still be a key player at a lot of clubs and he can always drop down a level if he doesn't get more minutes over the next couple years. But I'm glad to see him still giving Chelsea another shot this year.
     
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  15. abw

    abw Member+

    Nov 10, 1999
    Athens, GA
    Our attacking options leave a lot to be desired because unfortunately I support Sporting KC, but Chelsea's attacking options seem to be mostly Mount, Pulisic, Havertz, Werner, and Sterling right now. CHO could go out on loan. Ziyech seems bound for Italy. Broja - who knows at this point. Did I miss anyone?

    And Tuchel has said he is less-concerned about the attack than fortifying the defense.
     
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  16. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Blimey it’s worse than I imagined..

    Looks like you will get Kounde along with Koubaily your defence will be sound
     
  17. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

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    Nov 4, 2011
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    I never liked the way Havertz played with Timo.
     
  18. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    so where's all the promotional stuff for Chelsea this summer? Shouldn't Pulisic be all over that kinda stuff?
     
  19. dams

    dams Member+

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  20. DCU1984

    DCU1984 Member+

    Jan 15, 2009
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    Expect a big delay for kickoff not letting fans in the stadium yet.
     
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  21. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

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    Thunderstorm looks to be moving through quickly on radar. Orlando/Arsenal also delayed due to weather.
     
  22. NorcalHockeyhooligan

    Feb 25, 2012
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    So ESPN plus is lying…because their chyron says weather delay in effect?
     
  23. DCU1984

    DCU1984 Member+

    Jan 15, 2009
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    It's due to lightning in the area. Apparently it's safer to make everyone wait outside...
     
  24. NorcalHockeyhooligan

    Feb 25, 2012
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    Ah, ok…. I thought the delay was because they had to wait until the ticket holders were all seated! :oops:
     
  25. Jadentheman

    Jadentheman Member

    Jul 1, 2013
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    Lol ESPN showing Man City vs Club America on Cable TV while locking the match that has an American superstar against a domestic MLS team behind a stream. Make it make sense.
     
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