Official - 2022 roster moves and signings thread.

Discussion in 'LA Galaxy' started by ragbone, Nov 7, 2021.

  1. The Beautiful Gamer

    The Beautiful Gamer BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 26, 2008
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It be like getting hit on by 2 really trashy looking prostitutes lol.
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    Can you guess which on is the Miami front office?
     
  2. Beirut

    Beirut Member+

    Feb 3, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy


    Not sure how we pull it off. Not sure he fits with lafc. Interesting to say the least..
     
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  3. Beirut

    Beirut Member+

    Feb 3, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
  4. hav77

    hav77 Member+

    May 31, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
  5. footballfantatic

    Mar 27, 2008
    Ontario, California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. Dawdler

    Dawdler Member+

    Apr 2, 2005
    Los Angeles,CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  7. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
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  8. TrickHog

    TrickHog Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 14, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Gaston is a good pickup. The issue is the DP we got before the season was a horrible pickup and is preventing us from getting a game-changer in the this window.
     
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  9. 73Bruin

    73Bruin Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Torrance, California
    Josh Guessman on COG last night outlined that it was quite feasible for the Galaxy to sign Lingard to a Zlatan type TAM and follow-up DP contract for 2023 and possibly beyond. The options included a buyout of Costa, not resigning Chicharito to a DP contract in 2023, or moving Cabral (who may not be a young player in 2023).
     
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  10. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think Lindgard is that good. I mean, I'd take him over Costa if that was the choice last off-season, but role-wise he's not the kind of attacking mid we need and he's never been really dominant in the PL. For instance, when he was good, Costa was one of the best wingers in the world. Lindgard spent a few years in the Championship and didn't really dominate at that level, which is fairly comparable to MLS. I'm not sure he'd be a 10 and 10 type player here, which is what we should be looking for.

    The guy we should be chasing is Juan Mata, who I believe is also a free agent this season. If he came, he'd instantly be one of the best playmakers in MLS.
     
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  11. 73Bruin

    73Bruin Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Torrance, California
    #1136 73Bruin, Jul 8, 2022
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2022
    At least per TransferMarkt.'s stats, your statements about both Mata's and Lingard's production are incorrect.

    First, Lingard only played in the Championship for the second half of 2014/15 when he was 21 and loaned by ManU to Derby. He spent the rest of his career, with ManU with the exception of the last half of 2020/2021 when he was loaned to West Ham. In 16 EPL appearances for the Hammers, he scored 9 goals with 5 assists. He also produced under Morongo in 2017/18 with 8 goals and 6 assists.

    Mata is now 34 and far from the player he was at Chelsea in 2012/13. His most productive season at ManU was 2014/15 when he had 9 goals with 4 assists. His last season with more than rare spot minutes was 2018/19 when he had 3 goals and 4 assists.

    Now I am not saying that Lingard would be great, as he has a history of falling out of favor with his coaches, but his history is also that he can put up great numbers in a half season at a new club. Meanwhile, Mata has become less productive when he was given the minutes.
     
  12. Beep Boop Robot

    Mar 11, 2015
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Lingard only works if we cede possession and plan in transition. He was fantastic at West Ham last year. He’s not a ball dominant midfielder, which based on how we’ve tried to play under Vanney wouldnt mesh well.

    Mata is an interesting one. He’d be great in Vanney’s system IMO (in theory at least). Every manager at Man UTD tended to play him on the wing where he wasn’t athletic enough to make a difference. At Chelsea he played as a 10 and was one of the best players in the premier league until Mourinho came back for his 2nd stint and stopped playing him.

    Idk if Mata’s poor numbers the last few years also had to do with him getting up in age or being played out of position in a system that probably didn’t suit him. If we got him on a TAM deal (not a TAM to DP next year deal) it’s definitely worth a shot. At worst I think he’d be a less injury prone Vasquez. He is also someone you want in your organization. He’s just genuinely a good dude. He co-founded an organization called Common Goal. It’s an organization that is filled with members of the soccer community around the world that takes 1% of the members wages and uses the money to help tackle social issues around the world in the game of soccer (LGBT, Gender Equality, Racism etc.). There’s a lot of members who are unknown, but there’s also players like Mats Hummels and Paolo Dybala who have joined and are donating 1% (or more) of their wages.

    I don’t know if there’s any serious interest from the Galaxy, but if there is and it’s not for a DP slot for this year or next. I think it’s worth a shot.
     
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  13. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Agree on lindgard but mata was always overrated imo. Both are a bit inflexible.

    I sincerely think Galacticos have the manpower (players and manager) to win the cup, with a little luck here and there, p r o v i d e d that Gaston proves out and the team as a whole improves game to game in their teamwork. We beat Austin twice, FC twice. We hung with Seattle who scored on 3 free kicks iirc. We beat Portland. Against Dallas we got blown out but we started all wrong becasue the game plan was awry.

    i.o.w., it's not the end of the world if we don't get a star CAM since one of Kljestan, VV, Alvarez, Aguire, Raveloson (dare I say Costa?) can step up to the plate and deliver a decent game at the MLS level. There's the second half of the season for one or more to raise their game with this particular team. For the rest we've got wide players, decent cb's (luck factor: Coubiali has to be healthy) dmids and the dynamic duo up top, With the addition of Gaston, we've got a pretty flexible roster that can play in different ways
     
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  14. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    When doing this type of surmising you also have to factor in that many of our opponents will also improve as the season goes on. Smart teams figure out what works and what doesn’t over time plus several of these teams are also bringing in strong roster additions over the summer window.
     
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  15. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Well, there is the additional factor that bringing in somebody could put a guy like Efra or Aguirre on the bench without any p,t, just when they seem to be developing. Vanney was pretty bad about playing academy kids in Toronto, Plus, don't we have to think about replacing Chicharito even if he reups? Mata or Lindgard don't seem like that type of "9".
     
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  16. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Efra has been “seeming to develop” for four seasons for us. Yes in this game he had a beautiful assist. He also had 2 key passes (1 likely the assist) and showed a bit more effort in his first ‘post-Vanney-meeting’ game. So kudos for the great assist and the other key pass (don’t remember it) and his increased hustle.

    But let’s not get carried away (in general, not saying you are). Even in this “improved”state he got off 0 shots on target, completed only 65% of his passes (only Chich and Leerdam had lower completion rates) and defensively had 0 tackles, 0 interceptions, 0 blocked shots and 1 clearance. That’s not a tearing-up-the-field level of play.

    But I want to make a bigger point. There is often this belief that teams should develop young players by just playing them game after game. A lot of this comes from fans’ erroneous belief in a grass is surely greener mentality. I don’t subscribe to that model. As a former long time coach I can assure you that players that are really improving or who are truly special are hard to miss. That’s because young players on the squad get plenty of chances to show their growing skills (if they exist) even if they aren’t regular starters. If there is burgeoning talent it will show up in training sessions, it will be evident in sub appearances, it will reveal itself in non-league game starts.

    Now when a young player does start to consistently stand out from others in practice THEN you have to start thinking about giving him more playing time than even slightly better veterans because you see a star emerging. This would be the case with Araujo, for example. His speed and (former) aggressiveness and killer instinct were evident to everyone within a few minutes of watching him play. (I don’t know what happened to his aggressiveness and killer mode, it seems to have disappeared last off-season, but the point remains.)

    And you don’t need to give young players several seasons of starts to make them good. Instead if you are really identifying the right young players they will have enough talent and drive that they will continue improving rapidly when they finally do get starts. They won’t stagnate season after season. If they do you misjudged them in the first place.

    Alvarez showed remarkable talents for a 16yo. But coaches have leaned way too much on those early impressions and let them justify playing him regularly for four seasons straight despite mediocre performances and little signs of improvement. This unearned playing time hasn’t helped him get better and it certainly hasn’t helped us on the field.

    I’m NOT saying give up on Efra. He is still young (despite me misreading his age a few weeks ago) and he may still develop into a really good player. But that development needs to first show up on the training field, in sub appearances, USL loans, etc.. If and when he starts tearing it up in these opportunities then - and only then - should coaches be giving him first team starts “for experience.”
     
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  17. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Efra gets to follow up a strong start last game with a big start tonight. Let’s see him take that next step and deliver consistency!
     
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  18. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I’m pulling for this! I want to see him scoring, getting assists, making tackles, winning 50-50 balls and completing 90+% of his passes. And will be thrilled with 4 out of 5!
     
  19. CSUFstewie

    CSUFstewie Member

    Feb 27, 2006
    Placentia, CA
    Been a while since I posted.

    We need to stop kicking the tires on 34-37 year old midfielders. We need young, pacy, skilled dynamic players for the 6,8 and 10. I realize budget constraints limit what we can get but our focus should be on that.

    Just a though ... John Brooks is currently without a club. Not saying he would, but it would be interesting to see him slot into the back 4. Also, Matthew Hoppe is a hometown boy (from Yorba Linda) and he is begging for minutes. This could be something that would boost his world cup stock.

    Cutting the fat ... Costa needs to go. Cabral needs to go. Grandsir needs to go. Chicha needs to go. There are a few others as well but these are the main ones. As much as it pains me to say it, Klein needs to go. We need a front office in touch with the needs of this team and DP's that produce. We haven't been good since LD, Keane and Becks lifted the trophy. Zlatan was fun to watch but he was a one trick pony.

    We essentially need a teardown from top the down.

    This team has no identity, no culture and no heart. I remember when the HDC was a fortress and teams left with zero points, EVERY SINGLE TIME. I put that on the shoulders of the Front Office.

    I know this was a really negative take but it is what it is. We are a middle of the table team scrapping for the last playoff spot in probably what will be a one and done playoff game.

    We need to be better.
     
  20. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Meanwhile, Costa:



    Can't say we weren't warned.
     
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  21. Beirut

    Beirut Member+

    Feb 3, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    #1146 Beirut, Jul 11, 2022
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2022
    Not negative at all. It’s about time that the FO be held accountable for years of absolute mediocrity. It isn’t just about winning and losing (even though the culture of winning so many of our club legends established is now gone) but also about competently building competitive rosters with players who want to be here and compete. It’s about making fans feel like the effort that goes into cheering for these guys is worth it.

    Costa is peak Klein’s Galaxy. He and Vanney panicked into getting a 3rd DP and went after what landed on their lap rather than just waiting it out. We all knew he was injury prone, not a serious player, old, slow, and useless.. and yet they committed to him. WHY??

    I know Dybala is likely not ready to come to MLS, but it would have been nice to see the ambition Toronto put into Insigne here for our team. AEG has the money to make this happen. It’s infuriating seeing so many free agents out there and knowing we’re tied up to a guy vacationing with his wife who is on a red card or nursing injury after injury.

    Edit: I’m editing this because I just read Luis Suarez is considering MLS but would only consider a playoff team because he needs to be in game shape for the World Cup. Are we a play off team? We’re in position right now, but what have we done the last few seasons? This mediocrity doesn’t make us a viable or interesting option for top players anymore.
     
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  22. Skevin

    Skevin Member+

    Aug 9, 2009
    Colorado
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    You will get Ozil, and you will like it. I swear if this happens, I'm done. This club already is in so much trouble with Costa and Cabral locked in till 2024.

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  23. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Oh we are signing him:

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  24. Beirut

    Beirut Member+

    Feb 3, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    cant wait to see Ronaldo’s reaction when our midfield misplays a 4 yard pass to him :ROFLMAO:
     
  25. Dawdler

    Dawdler Member+

    Apr 2, 2005
    Los Angeles,CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    oof, none of these moves are appealing, as a Tottenham supporter my disdain for Ozil runs deep, and I'd be shocked if Ronaldo comes stateside before 2024. it just smells of desperation and reeks of an organization that is more concerned with merch and ticket sales and not the product on the field.

    I would not blame anyone who abandons this team especially if the Ozil move goes through and Costa, Cabral and Chich are still roaming the pitch while just picking up an unearned paycheck.
     
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