Rebuilding The Azzurri for Euro 2024 and beyond

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  1. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
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  2. Alex101

    Alex101 Member

    Mar 15, 2017
    #677 Alex101, Jun 23, 2022
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    Get ready the cesspool that is the Serie A summer transfer window, flooded with epl/la liga rejects(Like Matic) and Italian youth being loaned out again and again, while we have to suffer with news of an overrated Paul Pogba making his way back to Juve. :x3:
     
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  3. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    And fat overweight lukaku
     
  4. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    What do you expect... he went from eating beautiful pasta made with fresh ingredients.. to eating Shepherds Pie, mashed potatoes and Fish and Chips.
     
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  5. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member

    Mar 29, 2015
    From what i've observed regarding the clown show that is serie A transfer news, we will miss a third world cup and we will deserve it. We deserve everything coming to this footballing nation. Our league is the real enemy, valuing washed up players and rejects from other leagues instead of investing in youth.

    Meanwhile Roma is trying to offload Zaniolo...in the 80s or 90s he would have been protected and setup to stay at Roma for life.

    We deserve to miss every world cup thereafter for the debacle that our league has become. A farce.
     
  6. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    How so? Zaniolo isn't a Roman and didn't come up through their system. He was never shy about being a Juve fan either.

    Baggio went from Vicenza to Fiorentina to Juve, etc. etc. in the 80's and 90's. So I don't know where you're getting that. Good players moved around all the time. Maldini's and Totti's were the exceptions.
     
  7. Alex101

    Alex101 Member

    Mar 15, 2017

    Zaniolo is becoming a player who is already becoming a pest him and Kean, he is already faking injuries in order to avoid playing for Italy. What about Florenzi a player who puts out 100% effort and always has an excellent attitude and Roma they just bounced him around from team to team.

    On the bright side Monza want to buy Pessena, Petanga, Sensi, Belotti, Cutrone..seems like they want to build a team around Italian talent.
     
  8. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    If you take a look at the transfer market regarding the top Italian teams and Italian talents:

    1. Inter: Signed Bellanova. Good signing for him and a massive step up. Inzaghi rotated his right wingbacks this year between Dumphries and Darmian so no reason why Bellanova won't see the field. Other than that I don't see much going on. The return of Lukaku means that there won't be room for Scamacca. At the same time they're shopping Pinamonti. There were talks that they were looking at Udogie, but they never materialized. Esposito is being sent on loan to f'n Anderlect. Not one team in both Serie A & B requested him.

    2. Milan: Milan's core squad remains intact. The signing of Origi also means that the door to Scamacca is closed. Pobega returns from loan who can be very useful but Milan still don't consider him a Kessie replacement. They're still waiting to see what will happen with Renato Sanches. Right now it's looking like he'll be a #2 for the player they sign for the 3/4's spot, or a sub for Tonali. In defense, there were rumors that Sampdoria were asking Milan for Gabbia, but Pioli wants him to stick around. Good sign but not really. Gabbia is currently the 4-5th defender on this team. At Samp maybe he's a starter. Then there is the issue of right wing. Milan are looking for a fuoriclasse with experience. They were discussing Zaniolo (who would be great in that position) but it looks like Zaniolo is heading to Juve.

    3. Juve: Juve can't sign Zaniolo outright and will try to add a player to the deal to convince Roma. I do see Zaniolo as a player of the type Allegri likes, but I don't see where he fits in to his formation. Juventus have 3 young technical mids on the roster in Rovella, Fagioli and Miretti that they are all non Allegri types. One of them might be inserted in the Zaniolo deal, but remains to be seen what Mourinho wants. Juve have also signed Cambiaso from Genoa and now they are looking to immediately loan him out, possibly to Sassuolo. They are also looking to sell Pellegrini or insert him in other transfer deals. Other than these, the only other possibly Italian incoming might be Berardi but he is lower on the list of priorities.

    4. Napoli: The only good news is that Zerbin and Gaetano return from loan. But with our ownership and DS, you never know. They could be loaned out 1 day before the transfer market closes. Zanoli is confirmed as Di Lorenzo's #2. Napoli could possibly come in for Scamacca but that's only if Osimhen is sold. By then I think it will be too late.
     
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  9. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member

    Mar 29, 2015
    #684 Azzurrifan87, Jun 29, 2022
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    I would tell any Italian player to stay as far away from Juventus as possible. Chiesa only had success there under Pirlo b/c Pirlo actually coached a modern style, and Clownllegri basically ruined him before injury. Just like Locatelli

    What I'm getting at is he scored the winning in a EURO final. Ask yourself if he gets offloaded to Juventus, how successful will he be? Why would Roma want to get rid of a young matchwinner? The reason Roma even won a scudetto was because Capello understood how to keep and cultivate the young Italian talent he had at his disposal. I'm disappointed in Mourinho if he offloads Zaniolo, it will ruin him for good, esepcially @ LOLventus. Clowns that haven't won a EURO title since 1996 and never will under Clownllegri and Jokenelli
     
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  10. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member

    Mar 29, 2015
    Does Belotti qualify as Italian talent? He's a clod.

    I appreciate the intent from Monza. But it would be better spent investing in Pinamonti, Orsolini, and Bonazollis of the world. Stupid Mijalovic ruined Orsolini with his dumb squad rotation style of management. Whole Bologna squad should have been built around him, instead he has to sit so clowns like Skov Olsen, Soriano, and Arnautovic could get their rotation game time in.
     
  11. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    There is no telling how successful he will be, but playing for Juve is a step up in terms of prestige and pressure. He will also be playing in the CL which is exactly where Italian talents need to be playing. Roma know that Zaniolo is not committed to them long term and will run out his contract if he sees a better opportunity. So it's completely understandable that they will seek to sell him now.

    Also Zaniolo isn't exactly being valorized at Roma under Mourinho. Yes he had good games in the conference league, but playing up top in a 3-5-2 as a support striker is not his best position. There were many games this year where watching Roma almost gave me an ulcer. I'm not saying that Allegri will be better with him, but he does fit the mold of a player Allegri likes (tall, physical, running)

    Another thing is that a coach needs to determine what Zaniolo's best position is. I see him good at Milan in their 4-2-3-1 on the right side 3.
     
  12. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member

    Mar 29, 2015
    The only reason I don't like Milan as an option is if they sign him, and when they inevitably don't repeat as champions, Zaniolo will be the scapegoat.
     
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  13. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Milan won the scudetto with a gaping hole in their right wing. If Zaniolo can’t do better than Saladmakers, Messias and Castillejo he should be dropped from the national team and be considered a bidone forever
     
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  14. Alex101

    Alex101 Member

    Mar 15, 2017
    Scamacca is staying at Sassoulo or moving abroad and I hear it might be PSG and I hope its not, he will just be Messi, Neymar and Mbabbe's waterboy. I think Dortmund might be a good fit since they just sold Haaland
     
  15. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    If you look elsewhere for news concerning Italian talent:

    - Frattesi close to Roma

    - Pinamonti is pushing for a move to Atalanta. Monza also interested. Fiorentina were interested but it looks like they're going for Jovic. Pinamonti would be the guy in either Florence or Monza. In Atalanta he would play second fiddle to Zapata. But Zapata is starting to get old, and isn't 100% healthy all the time.

    - Scamacca is wanted by PSG and Arsenal. At PSG Campos is trying to build a more balanced side compared to Leonardo who was all about making the french version of the galactico's. Scamacca playing with Mbappe would be excellent for him. Wtv he chooses to do, he cannot stay another year at Sassuolo because he is wasting his time. Sassuolo have already programmed his replacement.

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  16. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member

    Mar 29, 2015
    Oh lord...Crapmacca...the most over hyped Italian player I've ever witnessed. And I've been following Italian football since 1990. Guy can't even trap a ball, but gets rave reviews. I'd rather call back Osvaldo in his place...I'd rather Belotti play in his place until he is 65. I'd rather Gilardino stand in the box and not move for the remainder of his life. I'd rather Corradi play 20 more games in his place.
     
  17. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    PSG have to unload salary and the rumor is they're trying to offload Neymar. Wtv the case, they don't have a striker on the team who plays like a classic #9. I think it would be a great move for him. If it doesn't work out, he comes back to Italy.

    There are also rumors that Kean also wants to go back to Paris.
     
  18. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member

    Mar 29, 2015
    Heck...give me a 40 year old Rolando Bianchi over Crapmacca
     
  19. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    the guy scored 16 goals last year and is only 23 years old. Give him an opportunity to play for a bigger club before you call him a dud.

    Are you basing your hatred of him on the NT... where everyone has been having trouble scoring?
     
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  20. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member

    Mar 29, 2015
    Scoring goals in Serie A no longer is a valid measurement. Immobile scored something like 27 goals last year. A severed horse head could have reached 40 goals in that league last season.
     
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  21. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    but you said you'd rather play Belotti instead of him "until he is 65". Doesn't Belotti play in the same league and only scored 8 goals last year? I'm struggling to follow your logic.
     
  22. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    There is none.
     
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  23. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Cancellieri is on his way to Lazio. Excellent signing for them as they were looking for a real right winger. Very curious to see how he does under Sarri
     
  24. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member

    Mar 29, 2015
    Sarcasm

    i listed a bunch of even worse options sarcastically claiming i'd rather watch any one of those other clods over Scamacca, to convey my disdain at attempting to watch him play football.

    hence, i'd rather watch Belotti play for italia until he is 65. As a joke. My responses are meant to be comical. But now they are being taken seriously. Don't take them seriously. I just listed a bunch of former strikers that have caused my hair to go grey while watching them play for Italia.
     
  25. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member

    Mar 29, 2015
    There is more logic in my left thumbnail than there is logic in retaining a coach that failed to qualify for a major tournament.
     

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