The USMNT 26-man roster for World Cup 2022 announced p80 #1991

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by xbhaskarx, Jun 13, 2022.

  1. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

    United States
    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm thinking fan rosters here. I agree he's a WC away from consideration.
     
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  2. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Roldan and Morris (header) both scored and assisted last night.
     
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  3. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Luna is more deserving of a call up, than Tillman. He may have a few minutes in MLS but he was dominating USL, like Gomez did, when he got a call up.
     
  4. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cool Roldan has shown time and time again he isn’t good enough for the next level. Morris I wouldn’t mind as a member of the 26.
     
  5. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Roldan may be competing with Morris and Arriola for 1 or two spots. I really can't see all three going.
     
  6. Ball Chucking Hack

    Jan 21, 2005
    Raleigh, NC
    The only very small quibble I'd have with this outlook is here. I'd put Weah at 2 on the HSM/W list b/c his ability and movement off and w/out the ball seem to me unique and necessary qualities in our pool. Our other attackers/wings/midfielders tend to carry/want the ball more and so Weah is needed balance to that in attack. Reyna might need to be shifted to midfield , or even up top (along w/ time as a half-spacer) to get him more time. (Though until the anticipated crowds at the attacking hybrid spots actually become a problem, I'm not convinced they really will be one.)
     
  7. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Does Acosta make the team if he stays coming off the bench as a backup for LAFC. With Chiellini and Bale coming a few could shift centrally with I.Sanchez as DM. If he's not a starter AND playing well I personally think we have to look elsewhere for a backup DM or look for other combinations to cover the position. Or I can hope because I'm not a huge fan of his play.
     
  8. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

    United States
    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not seeing Tillman getting the call for the WC this time around minus some bad injury juju. Not as of today anyway. Luna is at least as far off.
     
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  9. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Let's not get carried away. He is a solid prospect but 900 USLC minutes and 2 MLS sub minutes does not make a World Cup player. I'm assuming you are watching Luna vs St Kitts and Nevis and Nicaragua to make such an untenable statement. Tillman has 1200 in RegionalLiga and 102 in Bundesliga for Bayern Munich and he'll be lucky to make spot 26 on the roster. Luna still has a long way to prove he's talented enough for a full team cap let alone a full team WC roster spot. He first needs to lose 15 lbs to prove he's dedicated to the sport to keep his body in shape.
     
  10. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've been following Luna, since last season. He has been more productive, at a higher level than Tillman. He has outperformed our top youth players, that play in MLS. He's going to do very well in MLS. I'm just saying what I think people are going to be saying, in a few months..
     
  11. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    At a higher level than Bundesliga Bayern Munich for 102' Minutes. Now you're being silly.
     
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  12. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I get it, but Roldan was in the CCL team of the tournament. We don't think he'd dominate the U20s?
     
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  13. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Most of those minutes, came during a home defeat. He has only produced at the Regionalliga level and even that was underwhelming, compared to Luna's stats in USL. Also, Luna is a year younger.
     
  14. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    OK good, so you agree with me that 102 is more than 2....I was worried there for a moment.
     
  15. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is irrelevant. Other players have played more Bundesliga minutes than Tillman. A player is judged by his talent and impact on the team. Tillman has only been impressive for the Bayern youth teams. Luna was dominant, playing against adult professionals.
     
  16. dams

    dams Member+

    United States
    Dec 22, 2018
    It's irrelevant because neither Luna or Tillman are likely to be going to the World Cup. Certainly not Luna.

    I'm really intrigued with Diego but lets see how he does with the U20s the rest of the cycle. Assuming we make the U20 WC that will tell us a whole lot. I know folks downplay it sometimes, but that tournament is no joke in my mind.

    If it was mid cycle, I'd be all for calling up guys like Luna and Aaronson's little bro to the senior team for a run out in a friendly. Less talented players than them have gotten their debuts this cycle. They both are likely to get their chance next cycle, now is not the time.
     
  17. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    and in every single level he's played with on the German youth teams, every single one. But yeah, I'm sure Bayern Munich is clueless.

    Btw, Luna is awesome, love the guy, hoping he makes it, its hard to picture because I havent seen guys w/his physique in decades, but he's special at this level anyway and I'm excited to see him try and break through.
     
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  18. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I unfortunately can but I hope it’s just one
     
  19. Yowza

    Yowza Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Oct 23, 2019
    Arlington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, it's an injury or two and all those guys are going.
     
  20. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Nope.
     
  21. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I guess I am in the minority on here, again. I assume Tillman is going to the WC and have seen enough him to think it is warranted. I will take talent over vibes any day.
     
  22. dams

    dams Member+

    United States
    Dec 22, 2018
    I've been under the assumption that Gregg has already made the decision that he is going to bring Roldan, Morris, and Arriola. Maybe I'm way out in left field with that but they are all his guys and he has brought them in at every available chance. I've just assumed that they are going to be on a 26 man roster if healthy. If that is indeed the case then fringe guys like Tillman are going to have a tough time making it. Maybe I'm completely wrong though, what do I know.

    I guess we will have to see if Tillman is called in for the friendlies and if he plays at all.
     
  23. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Seems like a reasonable supposition, but things can still change. I see the case for Morris (many here don’t), but not for the other two. I think others who would be left at home could help more, though not sure Tillman is the right fill in.
     
  24. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    USLC adult professionals does not now equal World Cup roster.
    That's baloney and you know it. The two systems are not comparable.
    It's just wrong. Simply put both will probably not be on the World Cup roster with Tillman an outside possibility due to already being in camp. Luna is a good prospect and hopefully will help the US make the U20 WC. Please stop being an over the top fanboy so I can stop trying to bring back to reality the opinion who I really like as a youth player.
     
  25. nycfc919

    nycfc919 Member+

    Aug 17, 2015
    They'll most likely be going. The MLS guys will have a longer break before the World Cup, given that the MLS Cup Final is on November 5th. So those guys have a minimum 15 days (many will have 30+ days) vs 7-8 days for the European based players. Given the tight turnaround in Europe, there will be more smaller injuries than normal knocking guys out of the World Cup entirely, meaning MLS guys on the edge of making the team will have a higher than normal probability of sneaking onto the roster. It's not rocket science.
     

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