From Collegewhispers: "In 5 years time it might be only female head coaches in womens soccer despite of experience or ability. Gender is now the top indicator of who will be hired for a position in this line of work rather than who is best suited to give the athletes the best and most successful experience." A little interim report while we wait for the opening and filling of positions to complete itself for the upcoming season: The 2022 numbers do not include the vacancy at Akron or the filling of Incarnate Word, since their soccer webpages have not yet confirmed. They also do not include the 8 other positions still open. Other than that, the numbers are up to date.
A person or two in this thread ought to take a few minutes to listen to this interview by Ali and Ashlyn: “It’s important to have young girls see women in powerful positions doing incredible things.” https://www.instagram.com/p/Ce2BzZVj2zY/?hl=en
I have Whispers blocked so I don't see his misogynistic BS anymore, but sounds like he should find a new line of work if he's that sure about it. I'm sure it would be welcomed by most, especially his team - if how he talks about women and equality on the forum is any indicator of how he acts in real life.
If it means that you're no longer in a position to lead the next generation of women athletes then I'd call it a good tradeoff. You might be a nice person to interact with face to face and you might even be a good coach (I have no idea just giving you the benefit of the doubt), but you make a bunch of bigoted assertions on this board, and it would probably be an interesting exercise for you to express these opinions to your team and administration to see how they feel about you being in charge of a college program.
Cool indeed. Listen I’d rather not sidetrack discussions either and get back to the original intent of this thread, but YOU are the one constantly bringing up gender and de-railing the conversation because you have a narrative and agenda you want to assert. Please for the love of god shut up about how annoyed you are about women getting head coaching jobs when their resume doesn’t exceed your expectations. There are plenty of males hired every year in roles that, on a surface level, their resume might not warrant and I don’t ever see you whining about how they only got the job because they’re a man.
Something to think about though that would be difficult to research. How many female coaches applied for positions that went to men? What is the ratio of female HC’s relative to female coaches? I don’t have the answer to those questions, but it would paint a more complete picture.
Can you please demonstrate which positions I have complained Awesome thank you for that. Akron does appear to be zzzzzz right now, no movement with the search committee or official phone interviews just yet
While I think that is important too, it isn’t always the case. When I was working as an administrator, players on women’s teams I oversaw (not just soccer), consistently asked for us to hire male coaches. They said they preferred them. Could have been the makeup of the student body. No idea. But it was consistent. Times change and maybe that mindset has as well. Something else that gets glossed over. There are coaches hired all the time that on the surface appear underqualified. Both males and females. But without knowing who else applied, what the goals are of the university, and the intangibles that factor in (such as a rec from someone the administrator knows and trusts), it is impossible to get a complete picture. Arguing without facts is a pointless exercise.
Speaker makes a valid point. As a woman, I always preferred male coaches, just as in my professional environment, when I have reported to a hierarchy, I preferred a male leader. My kid is pretty much the same, she would rather play for a guy. That's not to say that there aren't wonderful women coaches and leaders out there but many women have not experienced them and rather they have experienced what I will be flamed for saying is "typical girl crap" when led by women.
There are many female players who want to play for women, too. Spoke to two today. They both played for a great female club coach, and they are ecstatic that their soon to be college coaches are female. They are going to separate power 5 schools. There is "typical boy crap" too. Just yikes that you wrote that.
I was thinking today and wondering about the proposed scholarship changes. If the NCAA is looking to remove the scholarship restrictions for women's soccer, will we see coaches that have been set for years in a good situation look to make a move? The conferences and schools that can fund at a higher scholarship level will have a big advantage. Will we see some of the mid major coaches that have been in good situations for a long time consider making a move in front of this?
It's probably because they are not males and the owners are misogynists who hate women coaches and want to hire only male ones. Its pretty much a certainty, the only logical explanation.
I believe Footyballs was trying to make a mirror image statement to statements some posters have made here on why some schools have hired women as coaches. I.e., if women are hired because they are women, then conversely they are fired because they are women. The use of a certainty, the only logical explanation is intended to mirror what Footyballs perceives to be the attitude of some who have criticized the hires. A form of sarcasm, I believe, with the actual content of the post not meant to be taken as true.
Freaking CP Thomas, that's funny stuff. Sophisticated explanation of me being a smartass, surprised someone didn't follow along. Oh well. I joke I joke, I kid I keed.
If it happens, I think you will see a split much like football (FBS and FCS). Two different D1’s. As it is now, there are schools at a big disadvantage scholarship wise. This will only widen the gap. But if you’re an AD, why on earth would you spend more money on Women’s soccer than they already do? It wouldn’t make good business sense. Time will tell.
I also think you’ll then have conferences regulating scholarship amounts…similar things happen in Football (below the FBS) right now
I think the obvious answer, on the week of the 50th anniversary of Title IX, is to give at the very least the impression of equality between genders. If schools increase scholarships on men’s sports like baseball and more minutely men’s soccer, you’re going to see scholarships increased in sports like softball and women’s soccer, too. There’s more than one way to be Title IX compliant (though many schools aren’t anyway) but if other (male) sports get more funded with this rule change, so will Women’s soccer…though, many schools and conferences probably won’t choose to fund further than they are already. The disparity will only grow between the top 80-100, or so, schools and everyone else.
Dustin was on staff as an athletic trainer with the U19s in Spain. I also know someone on that staff as well as Dustin. Good guy and multiple skill sets apparently.
My point wasn’t a slap at Women’s soccer. It was directed at all non revenue sports, which is basically everything except football and basketball. Those are fully funded already. I don’t see them funding any other sports more than they already have, male or female.
Penn is trying to move quick. Only looking at females. Down to Monmouth head coach and NJIT head coach. So could have another opening a month and a half from preseason start date.