2022-23 Hot Seat

Discussion in 'Women's College' started by Collegewhispers, May 18, 2022.

  1. 2233soccer

    2233soccer Member

    United States
    Sep 13, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What if you are someone that has already put your name to the complaints and concerns and they have been ignored and you have then been targeted with more abuse and bullying? I would think in this environment where coaches actually do have a lot of power that there might be a reason to stay anonymous .
     
  2. Collegewhispers

    Collegewhispers Member+

    Oct 27, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I personally believe that putting your name to something adds more credibility. I think attacking someone directly on a platform seen by everyone you lose a lot of weight when you’re behind a veil. Nobody knows if what is being said is true or if it’s just somebody whining.
     
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  3. Snow Leopard

    Snow Leopard New Member

    Paris Saint Germain
    France
    Nov 8, 2021
    I declare that the most desirable and prestigious women's soccer head coaching jobs in the US and Canada are at these universities.
    • California Institute of Technology (Caltech) USA
    • Columbia University USA
    • Cornell University USA
    • Duke University USA
    • Harvard University USA
    • Johns Hopkins University USA
    • Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) USA
    • McGill University Canada
    • New York University (NYU) USA
    • Northwestern University USA
    • Princeton University USA
    • Stanford University USA
    • University of British Columbia Canada
    • University of California, Berkeley USA
    • University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) USA
    • University of California, San Diego USA
    • University of Chicago USA
    • University of Michigan-Ann Arbor USA
    • University of Pennsylvania USA
    • University of Texas at Austin USA
    • University of Toronto Canada
    • University of Washington USA
    • Yale University USA
    Reference:
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    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61628740
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    The government says the "high-potential individual" route will attract the "brightest and best" early in their careers.
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    Graduates will be eligible regardless of where they were born, and will not need a job offer in order to apply.
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    To qualify, a person must have attended a university that appeared in the top 50 of at least two of the Times Higher Education World University Rankings, the Quacquarelli Symonds World University Rankings, or The Academic Ranking of World Universities, in the year in which they graduated.
    The list of eligible universities from 2021, published online by the government, featured 20 US universities, including Harvard, Yale, and MIT.
     
  4. SpeakeroftheHouse

    PSG
    Italy
    Nov 2, 2021
    What do you mean by 37 players? Players that have left? Over how many years? Seniors included in this? Players that were committed and released or actually enrolled? Put some context behind your statement because on the surface it sounds absurd. If they lost 37 players, they wouldn’t have a team. Lol. So dumb.
     
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  5. Centermid5

    Centermid5 Member

    Barcelona
    United States
    Feb 1, 2018
    This has all been said on here before but to get you up to speed.......
    at least 37 players have quit or transferred without using up all of their eligibility in the TWO seasons Carr has been there. This doesn't include the fortunate ones that decommitted when they announced Carr was taking the job. This does include 5th years who had eligibility that chose not to play or transferred out but does not include anyone that graduated and used up all eligibility. There is not one player left from the previous coach. There is only ONE of the previous coach's RECRUITS who remains, but that's another story on its own. Two investigations(USF & OU), 37 players out at OU(he lost dozens at USF also), losing records, mental health and suicide issues with the players. You tell me why OU chooses this guy over female student athletes!
     
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  6. Collegewhispers

    Collegewhispers Member+

    Oct 27, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Stating the athletes are suicidal because of a coach is a very serious allegation to make. Based on the transfer portal it seems like this coach is under a lot of pressure and I would assume he will lose his position after the fall, if not before. However we have not been privy to any specific examples or what this coach has said or done to the athletes to push them to the point of taking their own lives. I would hope this part of the narrative is considerably exaggerated.
     
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  7. devad

    devad Member

    Nov 18, 2012
    No insider information but the part that was odd were quality transfers who transferred in, played for a semester, got playing time and transferred out again. There do seem to be a few parents who are out for him. The real question is why did these players choose him if there was an investigation on him at USF. He did not win there either. Did these kids and families not do their homework? Fall for the bright lights then get mad when you get burned?
     
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  8. Number007

    Number007 Member+

    Santos FC
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2018
    Great point. Maybe this has been said, but his pulling power was at maximum when he was the US U20 coach. I wonder how many commitments that is "worth".
     
  9. Centermid5

    Centermid5 Member

    Barcelona
    United States
    Feb 1, 2018
    I personally know the player that was hospitalized for being suicidal directly because of Carr. It was reported in the OU investigation as well and she reported it directly to the head athletic director after the investigation in case he didn't see that in the report. He told her straight to her face that Carr was best for the program going forward. I also personally know a player at USF that was hospitalized for mental health issues directly because of Carr. OU players and perhaps even OU itself didn't know about the investigation at USF until it came out during the investigation at OU. So perhaps OU didn't do their homework when hiring him or maybe they did and didn't care.
     
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  10. Collegewhispers

    Collegewhispers Member+

    Oct 27, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew

    There are certainly enough factors to think this coach will be relieved after the fall if they have another bad year. You also seem to somehow personally know all these people who have been hospitalized having known Carr yet these programs are a thousand miles apart which seems odd.

    He is definitely in trouble and this well most likely come to a resolution soon, but when it comes to how he affected these players I’m curious what he said or did that led to people becoming suicidal. It is a major, major allegation to say someone was so badly treated they wanted to take their own life.
     
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  11. Jamie JBS

    Jamie JBS Member

    Fulham
    England
    May 10, 2021
    What about a program like Colorado? Having lived in the area and from going to games I feel like they could be quite good based on resources. Seem to just do the OK.
     
  12. Collegewhispers

    Collegewhispers Member+

    Oct 27, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Seems the administration are ok with what has been done there based on the time he has been there so I would assume (with no knowledge) that they are fine. There have in my opinion been a few very poor hires in the conference that over the next 5 years will probably keep programs like Colorado more than competitive.
     
  13. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My analysis says that they have been improving gradually while Sanchez has been there. There have been ups and downs, but over the course of years, the trend that I think best represents their history has been good.
     
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  14. upprv

    upprv Member

    Aug 4, 2004
    The issue or ceiling I see for Colorado is their style is so direct. It works sometimes when you have Taylor korniack to win every header and play final balls in and then get on the end of set pieces. Direct soccer can work. But they are also then victim to teams who can defend it and if you don’t have the pieces to run in behind and put balls away. I also know some top players haven’t gone there due to that style and I think it’s kept them from taking the next step. They get teams at home at altitude, have just an ok facility and play unappealing style. But he’s a nice guy and runs a good program so all in all their middling success is about right for those factors imho.
     
  15. Nacho Cheese

    Nacho Cheese New Member

    Mar 22, 2022
    Facilities/stadiums don’t recruit players, coach playing styles, and therefore don’t guarantee success, but I would say they have maybe the worst facility in that league, right? Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but if not the worst, it has to be bottom 2-3. No lights, have to play your weekday home matches at 3 or 4 pm local time. Temporary bleachers, no real stadium feel, but the mountains are nice to look at I guess? A bunch of non-P5 schools have a better match facility than they have, IMO.

    I agree, will be interesting to see what happens in that league going forward. More than half the league has new coaches since Covid. Washington, Arizona, UCLA, USC, Utah, Oregon, Oregon State all new. Some have taken steps forward, some regressed, some status quo. Would think the only one of the other 5 jobs goes into 2022 Fall remotely on the hot seat it’s Arizona State. Cal, Stanford, CU, WSU of the longer-tenured coaches all seem pretty safe.
     
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  16. Nacional Tijuana

    Nacional Tijuana St. Louis City

    St. Louis City SC
    May 6, 2003
    San Diego, Calif.
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #41 Nacional Tijuana, Jun 8, 2022
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2022
    Mana Shim joins SJSU as an AC.

     
  17. WACySOCCERWORLD

    Jan 28, 2014
  18. Nacional Tijuana

    Nacional Tijuana St. Louis City

    St. Louis City SC
    May 6, 2003
    San Diego, Calif.
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow! I used to participate in a woso chat with Manya and a bunch of others on Twitter back a few years ago. She had been playing (as Manya Makoski) for Thor/KA in Iceland. I wonder what's going on with her team. Hope it all works out, whatever "it" is.
     
  19. Eddie K

    Eddie K Member+

    May 5, 2007
    Manya is a super nice person but to be honest, GMU is not going to be competitive anytime soon, that is, in the top half of their conference. No offense to these players, but some of them are not D1 level players, not mid-major A10 players. Overstating the impact and attributes of recruits is a classic rookie mistake.

    There are reasons 9 kids from this program were in the portal and why she needs an entire new team in 1 cycle. Going to be a lot of conversations and meetings about why I'm not playing for this team. And more portal action. Hopefully, she was able to at least schedule a few non-conference wins.

    Betting the under....
     
  20. SpeakeroftheHouse

    PSG
    Italy
    Nov 2, 2021
    GM was a garbage program when she got there. 3-11-3 and 3-6-1 in the two years before her arrival. Good for her cleaning house and starting fresh. It takes time, but she will get them straightened out. At least 4-5 years are needed to get rid of the previous coach’s players and start fresh.
     
  21. WACySOCCERWORLD

    Jan 28, 2014
    Well, unless she's carrying 40+ players on the roster, I think she already got rid of the other players!
     
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  22. PlaySimple

    PlaySimple Member

    Sep 22, 2016
    Chicagoland
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Are you sure that she’s been playing in Iceland? There is only one woman from the States on the current Thor/KA roster and she is Tiffany McCarty. I don’t see how it would even be feasible for a collegiate coach to play professionally in Europe or elsewhere even if only for part of the season.

    https://www.flashscore.com/team/thor-ka/IPmlpcd2/squad/
     
  23. Nacional Tijuana

    Nacional Tijuana St. Louis City

    St. Louis City SC
    May 6, 2003
    San Diego, Calif.
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, not "has". "Had.". This was in the late '10s, IIRC. She's full on coaching now.
     
  24. Eddie K

    Eddie K Member+

    May 5, 2007
    Manya was an asst at UMD. Brought there by Ray Leone who knew her from ASU. She was a very good player but like very many, prob could not make a living doing it as a pro so became a coach. She found her husband in the DMV, who runs the FCV club, and likely why she took the job at very modest d3 Marymount in Arlington. When GMU came open, she was the local cheap insider candidate when Bramble got fired by being promoted at GMU.
    Again, great person and frankly, courageous of her to take that job but betting the under at GMU. Happy to eat my words if GMU gets into the top 2-3 in their conference or makes it to a conference final anytime soon. I know several names in that massive recruiting class and they are not going to help on the field in a very competitive A10....but we'll see.
     
  25. SpeakeroftheHouse

    PSG
    Italy
    Nov 2, 2021
    In your fury, you’ve missed one important factor. Players with eligibility for a 5th year, more often than not do not return to the same school, especially now with so many of them due to COVID. Schools recruit 1.5-2 years in advance so their money is tied up. Most of those players end up in the portal and at another D1 with money available. The exceptions being the top flight players. They’ll find a way to bring them back. Seeing as OU has not been good, it is no surprise whatsoever that players don’t return/haven’t been brought back for a 5th year, and it is silly to include them in your number. Every senior that has graduated the last two years has eligibility remaining. LOL.

    My suggestion is to let it play out. If he fails on the field, he will be gone soon enough. If there was something happening in other areas, he’d be gone by now. Clearly you are simply wrong. In this day and age with coaches gone left and right, there is no chance he’d still be there. Take a deep breath. Things usually work out one way or another the way they’re supposed to.
     
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