Going to Qatar 2022: tickets, accommodations, etc. (non-politics)

Let's hope. But faster intervals than 2.5 to 3 min is not likely and don't assume they have an unlimited supply of trains - they need to service two matches at the same time and they still need to keep all lines running. If you run a train every 3min on one line and then at the transfer the other line is running every 10 min, you will have a big build up there. They might do better than my estimation, but not a lot better. Thus it will take time and will be disappointing if you're trying to reach another stadium...

I was annoyed when FIFA wouldn't allow the purchase of adjacent matches, but it's starting to make a lot of sense...

 

for budget conscious - some hotels at $105 per night showing now. They surely wont go below that

 

I am not sure what to think value wise of this hotels. Honestly i would still wait for a golden opportunity price/value wise but it night not come after all..

wonder if more to come or this was the one which was all coming today according to the FA forum

 

They look a bit cheap, not much to offer, but just in the heart of the city. I see as a much better option than the clusters, if you just need a place to sleep for a few days.

 

Yeah for location they are night and day better than the clusters and similar price.

 

can anyone explain why some of these hotels being listed like the "Grand Qatar Palace Hotel" have the amount of beds listed, but not specifically the bathrooms . . . am i wrong to assume its community bathrooms, all the other apartments ive seen listed specifically mention bedrooms and bathrooms

 

Most posts I've seen have failed to account for the hundreds!! of buses that will be taking fans to selected points in Qatar. Where I live, buses account for 70% of fan travel at the end of a match vs. 25% waiting for the adjacent trains. And the train queue is consistently longer, even with two platforms loading and 1/3rd of the volume of buses. (4% are self-drive, 1% Uber.)
With the large parking lots beside many of the Qatar stadiums turned into bus queues, I suspect a relatively small 40,000 seat stadium will empty in the typical 15-30 minutes we see elsewhere in the world, assuming there's no further security checks post-game.
The challenge will be what occurs when these buses get to its destination - moving the Metro queue from Lusail to Al Bidda station isn't all that helpful, especially since one quarter of the trains would be full (those coming from Lusail.) But if there's enough buses to enough Metro stations on enough different lines...it's only 40,000 (except Lusail) less VIPs and sponsors who won't be in your Metro queue; this is managed quite easily throughout the world on a weekly basis. It's possible it will be a disaster, but it far more likely that it will look a lot like any other major city's weekend match. Expect Lusail to take longer to empty, but in the context of multiple matches per day that only delays your apartment arrival (except DENvTUN on Day 2)
As for the math I've seen...does everyone sit in a seat on a train post-match? No standing room on these train cars? And the regular 5 min frequency can be increased (on some if not all lines) to 2.5 minutes, as it was during the Arab Cup.
Thank goodness the posters here are not on the World Cup stadium selection committee. We probably wouldn't have a World Cup 2026 because every location would be a disaster!

 

Good looking-out. That Grand Qatar hotel's a 10-minute walk from Msheireb station, which has all three metro lines.

Now debating whether that's a better option than my potentially AC-less cabin at the Fan Village next to Bin Ali Stadium.

Typically $70 a night, going for $193, lol. Thanks, FIFA/Match.

 

So one of the Google reviews for La Villa Suites Hotel...
"Is it a hotel?????...Labour camp is better then this hotel."

 

tripadvisor ratings for these stud hotels are not good... i would wait for more lol.

 

yea def would be a tough choice for me if i haven't booked yet haha. but as of right now, for me personally im happy with the fan village that you mentioned, im gonna see 4 games at ahmad bin ali and another 3 at education city so being that close to the stadiums is nice

i notice that the cabins don't have a proper chair and desk, and hotel rooms usually have them. it'd be nice to have those but im sure i can live without that

 

Yeah, The labor camps at least are new. The review on some of these hotels are gross. Smokey, smelly etc.

 

Yeah. I saw those reviews. Not good. Other than location, these hotels seem worse than the clusters, and double the price, or more. As long as there are shuttle buses to/from the clusters, as promised, I think that I will go with the clusters for the earlier days of the tournament.

Also, around the time of the final, these hotels are requiring a minimum 4 night stay. Has anybody seen any accommodation that allows a 2 night stay at that time?

 

There is information that the next FCFS will start on the 28th of June.

Let's wait for an official announcement.

 

Before asking me from where the information comes, I emphasize that it's nothing official, but just news that reached some Fifa Fan Leaders that I know. So I'm sorry in advance if the news are not true.

 

A question for those who canceled their accommodation, made a new one and received a 100% refund: did you wait for the Ticket Application Number to be validated again or did you do it with another Ticket Application Number ?

Did you first cancel the one you had and then make the new reservation?

 

Curious -- what makes DEN v TUN different?

 

what a choice between the newer prison camps way out in the middle of nowhere or these dirty, smelly, old hotels in great locations. I'm passing on both and hoping that something better comes soon.

The big question is, are these few new hotels:

(a) the small trickle before the floodgates open and we get lots of hotel choices, or

(b) the only ones we'll see because the organizers dredged up these substandard ones up that no federation/organization wanted just to fulfill their promise that hotels were coming to the accommodation site?

 

After a quick look at Metro commute times (45 mins+ back to town), agreed! Amenities/space aren't amazing or cheap, but I'd rather walk home after 10 pm US & CAN games. Just need tix now.

That FV location really can't be beat given the draw. 2 stadiums, Mall with Carrefour next door, Metro station...

We're staying, neighbor.

 

In 2026 cities won't have multiple matches on the same day, so the time to evacuate isn't an issue (by evacuate I mean the ability for people to leave the stadium by car, bus and train). We're talking here about getting from one stadium to another stadium within an hour or two when there are 4 matches being played on the same day at 4 different stadiums.

Out of curiosity, where will that parking lot full of buses be going? My understanding is that there are two shuttle depots in the center of the city, which won't help anyone get much closer to their next stadium(there are no stadiums near those depots). Let me give an example assuming half leave by train and half by bus. 100s of buses from two different stadiums load up at 8pm with 60 people per bus and drive 30 or 45 min to two depots in the city center. So I suppose those depots (in a city center no less) can handle hundreds of buses arriving, unloading and then leaving again back to the stadiums for the next load, all within a half hour?. OK possible. And I have great swamp land in Florida to sell you.

To move 40,000 people in 30 min:

Trains: 300 people every 2.5 minutes = 12x300 = 3600 in 30 min.
Buses: 60 people every 30 sec = 60 x 60 = 3600 in 30 min.
subtotal excluding cars and walking to your destination = 7200 in 30 min.

Keep in mind this not like Wembley where people span out and head to many stations, pubs and restaurants in the vicinity. We're talking about being in a suburb of Doha with nothing much to do other than take a train or bus to somewhere else.

Anyway, hope what you will, but people are going to be very disappointed if they think they will reach the next match staring 1 or 2 hrs after the first finished. Also note that the authorities in Doha aren't even trying to get you from stadium A to stadium B - that objective is not on their radar. Now, if the organizers announce that they will run shuttles directly from the 6pm stadium to the 10 pm stadium, then that, along with the metro, might actually work. But what are the chances they do that when FIFA has explicitly restricted such ticket sales. Note it is probably the Qatari planners who insisted with FIFA not to sell tickets to adjacent matches.

 

They've published a document stating that back to back matches are non compatible. Qatar and FIFA are telling you it's not possible.
https://www.fifa.com/news/match-compatibility-table-fwc2022-en

 

yea definitely nice being able to walk home after the 10pm games! although im also going to a bunch of 10pm games in lusail and al bayt hehe regardless though where i stay it will probably take a while to get back because of all the crowds getting on the metro. on the flip side i can sleep in a bit and just get to the stadiums easily for the afternoon games

and yes mall is right beside too in addition to the 2 stadiums, really hard to beat that kind of a location

 

there is that one 4 star in west bay, but that's definitely getting booked fast. someone did mention on here earlier today that someone on the england supporters forum said there will be more hotel rooms available tmr, but idk if the drop of the budget ones just now are that

i do think that most of the better ones that we saw when the accommodation website first came out are booked by the players and all the other FIFA ppl

 

i used the same ticket application number. but you might have to wait a few hours or so before you can book a new accommodation after cancelling the original one, in order to have the website allowing you to do so

 

Did you cancel through the website itself or did you have to contact us by email?

Did you have to send an email for the refund or was it automatic?