2022-23 Borussia Dortmund Season General Discussion Thread

Terzic with an experienced assistant should be fine.

 

Marco Rose played big part in players like Schlotterbeck and Adeyemi deciding to join BVB. For the sake of the team, I really hope Terzic was on the same page when it came to transfers. Nothing against Terzic as a person, he is a top guy. But as a manager, he is average and I feel he should have managed some other BL team for 2-3 years before our board putting trust in him.

We are going to need a top striker (a target man preferably) as Adeyemi cannot match the scoring output of Lewa, Auba, Haaland.

 

I was disappointed with the appointment of Rose last year, as I wanted a better rated coach, and was not excited by the "let's discover the new Klopp" approach. But I thought let's give the guy a chance.

I think Terzic's appointment is pure stupidity, given that we've seen what he can do, and we've seen his limits.

I hope I'm badly wrong.

 

What exactly did he, in his 6 months at the helm, do so wrong in your eyes that he showed such low limits? I keep hearing that he had Sancho and Haaland when he took over but that same Sancho was dogshit in the first half of the season and it wasn't until Terzic took over that he and the rest of the team picked up their game and started to play up to par. I'm not entirely thrilled that Terzic was appointed but I also do not see any better alternatives on the market that fit the teams criteria.

 

The better alternative is to not seek an alternative in the first place and stick with Rose. Granted we don't know what happened in that meeting exactly.

But with Terzic I remember that for most games I didn't like the setup and the mid-game decisions. I don't remember what it was exactly, but I remember reaching the conclusion that he's a bad tactician after a good sample of games.

And yes I know that he can motivate players. But so did Rose. We greatly improved in the mentality aspect and won multiple tough and ugly games.

So if I compare Terzic to Rose, they're on par with the motivation, and he lacks on the tactics. So we've gone one step backwards.

 

We still need a DM and a winger. Let's see how Terzic goes, but it seems like he did work some things out by the end of last season.

I would still love for us to sell Bellingham and sign a Nevs/Bissouma and a Hudson-Odoi/Raphina/Zaha/Sarr

 

This just shows how embarrassing our club have been. I am convinced Bellingham has it in his contract to play every week and he is not a holding midfielder. No wonder we concede so many goals.

Here's even our terrible media quickly realising this.

"Even so the game showed Bellingham's position isn't as a holding midfielder in a 3-4-3. He can pass the ball, but his natural instinct is to get forward and use his athleticism and creativity to set up chances rather than sit in front of the defence and set up play for others."

Everyone in England clearly saw this. Yet we continue to be stupid and pretend he is having great games.

Yet even England can see he can't even play with 5 at the back in a two man midfielder next to a DM like Rice. We continued to play him in a 4-2-3-1, with just Dahoud.

He is 100% going to leave the club next summer. Nothing can be built with him. Just sell him nothing and raise money to build an actual team for the future that want to win things.

 

We need to stop looking for a striker. We have a 17 year old kid, who deserves his shot. Malen can be the backup. Sign a proper right back and maybe even another left back.

Give Moukoko the number 9 and tell him he is going to be our star man. Make him feel loved and say Reus will break all the goals and assist records for Dortmund, but he will break Reus' records.

 

Sign Raum, make this team german again.. Stop being a ********ing step stone to foreign players

 

Well, they have Bradley Fink too, he would be the perfect foil for Moukoko... Knauff should b RB.

 

Knauff could be right wing or right back, but sadly we let him go to Frankfurt. I am happy he won the Europa though.

Selling Bellingham is a MUST this season. Look how the speculation effected Haaland. Look how it effected Sancho initially. It's a killer for the team to know one of your key players is leaving and the manager can't build anything.

How can we build successful partnerships if the team is constantly being broken? Sell Bellingham and get Neves and Raum. I love Raphael, but he seems to want to go and this team needs width. His another player we never got the best of, because we didn't build the team properly. With Guerreiro you need an orthodox winger, who sticks to the left giving Raphael space to come into the midfield. F

 

Think we are in for Raum, but it looks like it is more along the lines for a transfer next summer. Although if we are able to offload Schulz we should have enough money to get him now. My concern is that they are both similar players, i.e. wingbacks that are somewhat hampered by their defensive ability but are good at going forward.

As for the striker - Malen, Moukoko and Adeyemi are all fine and dandy, but none offer that raw physicality that Haaland had. All of the above are more nimble attackers, which is good for depth, but a killer for versatility. In that sense, I completely understand why we are going after someone like Kalajdžić.

 

I don't think Guerrero wants to leave, I think he is being pushed out by the club... most likely because he is rather suspect in respects to defensive duties. He does have a tendency to roam up that field and not return. I think last year was a one off with all the injuries, and that it would be a mistake to let him go. Personally I rather see them sell Schulz and bring in 2nd stringer or promote Rothe to compete for one more year. i also think they should promote Fink.

Burki (Lotka)
Meunnier (Wolf--Angsnar 1st choice when back) - Schlotterbeck (Can/Koulibaly) - Sule (Hummels) - Guerrero (Roth/?)
Bellingham (Dahoud) - Ozkan (Can/Kamara)
Brandt (Hazard/Gittens) - Reus (Reyna) - Adeyemi (Malen)
Moukoko (Fink)

Did I miss anyone ? Honestly, that is what I would do. The club don't need a RB, but then again will Knauff want to stay when he is back ? Maybe if he was made 1st choice RB I think he could be persuaded, Meunier is not getting any younger. Then you have Fink coming through, him and Moukoko as a front 2 would be so sick, with Adeyemi CAM, granted is Fink ready ? Probably not, maybe thats why they buy an older striker, who they can phase out as Fink develops, and have Gittens take that RW role as Hazard is now 30? or something. Thats why it make no sense to get Kaladje or however you spell it. Prolly why they are targeting Haller, gives Fink 1 year in 3 Bundesliga and then maybe another year or two out on loan, then becomes a first team regular if he can cut the mustard. At least that is whaT I would do...
I like the waY Kehl is shapping the team, will Lotka be allright playing 3 Bundesliga ? If he had stayed in Berlin, he probably would have been first choice for a Bundesliga team, so I'm not sure how they are going to sell that to him. Although I hear Santa ran out of presents...

 

So we signed Haller!! What do you think of the Adeyemi-Haller tandem?
Is it enough to dream of a BL Title with the upgraded Defense?

What do you think is our weak link going into the season?

 

I actually think that our DM hole is nowhere close to being as "weak" of a link as both FB positions. I feel very confident in Ozcan and truly believe that he will end up being the best acquisition for us this summer.

 

I actually don't think full backs are a concern at all.

That Aining looks a real player.

Aining- Guerrero Knauff - Wolf,

sell Schulz, Passlack, phase out Meunier in a year or two, and still question marks around Morey. It would be great to see Passlack go to a team where he is first choice, I think he is still a very decent player.

 

My concern is definitely not based on the future but rather just next season. With Knauff back and Aining/Rothe developing into suitable options bodes well down the road...next season, however, I am much more concerned.

 

Don't think we will be making more signings. I for one am looking forward to Haller. We are lacking quality in the FB positions still. Meunier and RG will be the obvious starters I believe, but one is kind of weak going forward, while the other is kind of weak when asked to defend. As backups we have Passlack, Morey, Wolf and Rothe (who I am exited about). Passlack and Wolf can do a good job defending wise, hope Morey can reach a nice level after what happened to him. If we manage to avoid an injury crisis (something that seems to happen every year), I believe we have a good shot at the Bundesliga and a deep run in the CL.

 

I think Guerreiro has regressed and it seems Dortmund would prefer parting ways while Guerreiro wants to stay which blocks Raum. He really needs to up his game though if he wants a contract extension.
Alternatively, maybe use him in midfield.

 

I am really surprised by the club's attitude towards Guerreiro with reports that he's being pushed out. What happened to rewarding loyalty? The guy has been with us for a good number of years, his best years, and he's been one of the most consistent players. He has one bad year and they want to kick him out? It's even arguable if it was a bad year for him IMO! Very strange, honestly.

 

There are reports about an unprofessionell lifestyle.
But generally, in this profession, there are limits to rewarding loyalty. That's why I cannot be too mad about great players leaving us unless it's to specific rivals. Because as soon as your performance is below expectations, the club won't hesitate to show you the door.
Remember guys like Kuba? Or for how long they tried to replace LP and they had to go back to him again and again?