It's About to Get Hot Outside: 2022 Summer Transfer Thread

Discussion in 'Juventus' started by juveeer, Feb 1, 2022.

  1. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For striker back up we should 100% go for Joao Pedro who was just relegated today. He cannot be that expensive nor a high salary. But tons of experience and proven goal scorer in this league.

    If not Pedro, I would spend 15-20M on Taremi from Porto as he is proven and cheap and his style is exactly what fits Allegri. He is almost 30 but its his prime, surely a good 2-3yrs we can get out of him til the next upgrade in few years. His salary is really cheap too.


    Arthur & Rabiot have interest from PL then please cut your losses and go. That opens up 12M per season salary?
    Miretti showed he can play, McK, Zak, Loca, Pogba is good cover for now. And lets give Fagioli a chance too.

    i would go big on a proper world class LB as you need explosive fullbacks in the modern game. I would spend 30-40M here.
     
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  2. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    I don't know, but my first trip to San Jose, and we went there and ADP jerseys on the wall along with ancient Quake stuff. My son works for the Quakes, so that is OK, but I don't like the new inter-esque uni colors.
     
  3. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am liking Destiny Udogie from Udine (on loan from Hellas). 19y, Italian, defends and attacks.
     
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  4. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I googled and didn’t find anything. If you have more links or hints to share would be great.
     
  5. dean smith

    dean smith Member

    Juventus
    England
    Jan 17, 2021
    Jesus would be a great player for us. I think him and Vlahavic would form a formidable partnership
     
  6. dean smith

    dean smith Member

    Juventus
    England
    Jan 17, 2021
    Today’s rumours in England are Juve are pushing hard to sign Lodi from Athletic Madrid and filip kostic from Frankfurt. Kostic has had a great season and got voted player of the tournament in the europa league
     
  7. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I remember Kostic from his days in the Dutch League (he replaced countryman, Dusan Tadic, at Groningen). He's an OK player but also 29 years old. I would hope that Juve won't spend big €s for him as he's only a little above ordinary and certainly not in Chiesa's league.
     
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  8. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    Caffe Calcio.

    It is connected with the Italian restaurant Enoteca La Storia:

    https://www.facebook.com/caffecalcio/
     
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  9. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Final year of his contract and would be there for Chiesa until he returns at the end of the year beginning of 2023. Should be relatively inexpensive and 7 goals and 15 assists last year isn't too bad. Especially when you compare that to Bernardeschi and his 2 goals and 6 assists who he would be replacing. World beater? No, you're right. But a solid contributor until Chiesa gets back for a relatively inexpensive price.
     
  10. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    You want to know why we've been waiting 26 years to lift the Champions League trophy? It's stupid moves like ones being contemplated here. Our dirigenti (and it starts at the top with that overrated Agnelli) consistently fail to scout and develop (with patience) younger players and they can't resist buying over-the-hill stars on the decline. I've seen it time and time again. Instead of buying players BEFORE their prime. We buy them well AFTER their prime. Pogba is a shell of what he was. Angel is well in decline. Why tie up resources on a depreciating asset? It's poor business at all levels.

    Look at Milan's investment in youth. Tonali, Calabria, Kalulu, Tomori, Saelemaekers, Leao, Theo Hernandez, Kessie...all players 25 and younger. I'm not even counting the Gabbias or Maldinis.

    Our dirigenti can't seem to get the concept of building a core of young players and developing them for a cycle. It's always about quick fixes. I'd be thrilled to finish 4th, 3rd, etc for a few years and invest in young talent for the future. Juve is too short-sighted
     
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  11. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I agree, its a pattern our fanbase keeps accepting and each time they think they found next Pirlo. Tired of bandaid fixes, just build a fukkin team.

    we finally have 2 decent shots at youth in Miretti and Fagioli but i just know at best we will keep one and ship the other one away for some 32yr old

    issue with players like Di Maria is not that he still isnt good but the hunger motivation and drive isnt there for those types of players anymore. I remember i was pissed at signing Rabiot and Ramsey and also Matuidi and Higuain.
     
  12. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    Juve doesn't have endless oil money to just buy everyone in their prime. So, instead they adopt a strategy of buying people past their prime (including Ronaldo). That never works. We have to get younger. These are long seasons and the CL is grueling. A 24 yr old's legs can handle that a lot more than a 32 yr old's legs.
     
  13. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    I think the other day I was reading that our beloved Juve was wondering what to do with Miretti and Fagioli. Lots of speculation they would be sent out on loan. Why? Is our midfield so packed with world class players that we have no room for them?

    Why are they too young to play for us? "Non li vogliamo bruciare" they say. BS. This is such backwards mentality and it keeps us from taking the next step. I'm old enough to remember when Inter had Andrea Pirlo as an 18 year old. He's got great talent but let's loan him out to not one but two different minnows. WTF? Show some patience and let the kids develop. Look how patient Milan was with Tonali and he was arguably the key reason they won the Scudetto this year.

    I blame that moron Agnelli. He's not worthy to shine the shoes of his father or uncle. Talk about mismanagement year after year and a complete failure to have a long-term plan and stick to it. VERGOGNA!
     
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  14. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    I think Agnelli came in when we were in bad shape financially and when he brought in Bepe and Conte, they were able to "steal" that first scudetto on the cheap. In a way this set a bad precedent.

    Bepe was very good at scooping up young polars like Pogba and the kid that went to Bayern from PSG, mix them with our then solid core of Chiellio, Marchisio, Buffon, etc. and solid but inexpensive players like Vidal, Barzag and Lichtsteiner and spend a bit on older still strong players on their downside like Tevez and Pirlo to keep us ticking over until he left.

    That was a solid strategy for winning the league but did not give us enough to win the CL even though we ended up in the finals twice.

    Since Bepe left we still appear to be trying a similar strategy but the guys implementing it aren't good enough to pull it off.

    Plus when we DO go to a youth movement we only keep a youth oriented coach like Pirlo one season before going back to Max, who doesn't really appreciate youth, and who promptly misuses it and we end up shipping out a talent like Kulu and Romero and the Turk for peanuts.

    We do have some talent in the youth set ups and we have bought some good young players. I would prefer to see us change managers and commit to this, but Juve always has to win now and that means not playing the young guys if you are Max Allegri. Too risky.

    Until Max goes we may well win the league again in the next year or two with our stop gaps but unless we get very fortunate we won't win the CL this way.
     
  15. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
  16. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Ciao Chiello! addio casa e bottega, bottega e casa!

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  17. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I see what you are saying and largely agree but the fans will not accept this. Everything I hear over and over is "winning isn't important, it's the only thing that matters."

    Meanwhile, Juventus have acquired the most sought after young CB in 2019, 2 of the youngest Euro winners from last summer, and one of the top young CF in the world. Only team in Italy with a dedicated U23 team and almost made it to promotion to Serie B.

    People are calling for Agnelli's head after leading the the club to 9 scudetti in a row and back to back 4th place finishes in 12 years since taking over by the age of 46. Something that his father or uncle never managed, but he can't shine their shoes? He did maintain certain traditions from those before him, lost multiple CL finals.

    Has he made mistakes? Absolutely, Moratta was probably more important than given credit. CR7 turns out was a mistake even though he was scoring record amounts for us. Super League was a bust. Messed up the relationship with Del Piero (hopefully being repaired with his recent visit).
     
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  18. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fabio Miretti has been added to the senior Italian National Teams training camp. Go on Fabio!
     
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  19. juventino13

    juventino13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2005
    Caribbean
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    561 appearances, will always be a legend. It was the right time to part ways
     
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  20. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    Juventus overspent for that CB and he's not worth that price. The Chiesa, Locatelli, and Vlahovic signings were great, but they didn't develop any of those players and they paid handsomely for them.

    I've watched Serie A long enough to know the 9 scudetti were overblown. Serie A is not at the level it was and so during that period it was easier to win. The current level of competition is nowhere near where it was 20, 30, or 40 years ago.

    Agnelli thinks he's smarter than he is. He lacks foresight and patience. It doesn't matter that we have a U23 team. Our youth investments have born very little fruit under Agnelli.
     
  21. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    One youth player to watch out for is Dean Huijsen who is Dutch born but played youth football in Malaga when his parents moved there from Amsterdam. He is starting for the Dutch U-17 team in the Euros right now. The beat Italy the other day and are in the semifinals against Serbia tomorrow. Huijsen is the designated penalty taker and a decent center back.

    I don't know how the U-23 teams are set up in Italy. The Ajax U-23 plays in the Dutch 2nd division, so the young players get experience against much older players. They won the league back in 2018 when van de Beek, de Ligt, Nouri, and de Jong were playing there.
     
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  22. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like De Sciglio is not in Juve's plans for next season. Lots of reports that there is no deal done to extend his contract, and Juve isn't interested in doing so either.
     
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  23. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    According to ADL, Napoli is close to signing Bernardeschi. Lol
     
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  24. IcEWoLF

    IcEWoLF Member+

    Juventus
    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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