Post-match: DC United v New York City FC

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  1. Daniel le Rouge2

    Apr 16, 2015
    Club:
    DC United
    Are we really setting the bar that low for Flores? In Taxi’s absence, he has to do something to justify his hefty paycheck. Not seeing the level of … well, anything, that meets that metric.
     
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  2. Wyrm2

    Wyrm2 Member

    Apr 29, 2007
    Silver Spring
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm glad you are all seeing positives, NYCFC had about 2/3rds of the possession and look dangerous on every corner. We had a couple of good counter attacks and don't look clueless when we press. Not seeing all that much positive for a home game (admittedly with a lineup with no real attacking threats aside from Kamara)
     
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  3. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    I can see positives because I have given up hope
     
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  4. Ian Scullen

    Ian Scullen Member

    Oct 1, 2013
    Club:
    DC United
    I feel like we take a lot of not great first touches.
     
  5. Daniel le Rouge2

    Apr 16, 2015
    Club:
    DC United
    Or second touches, for that matter.
     
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  6. Aconti2

    Aconti2 Member

    Apr 10, 2011
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah I get it but I was commenting on the play, not the result of the half. Second half looks like it's going to be 0-0 so does that mean we played better than in the first? I don't think so. The second half was an ugly slog. We must have been gassed from all that pressing.
     
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  7. Daniel le Rouge2

    Apr 16, 2015
    Club:
    DC United
    No, they were gassed from all that chasing. NYC had almost 60% on the possession clock in the first half. Largely in the offensive half.
     
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  8. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think your starting midfield/strikers need to be

    Kamara
    Flores - Robertha - Taxi - Gressel
    Djeffal
    Smith - Birnbaum - Pines - (Najar)
     
  9. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I also think Romo is a better keeper at the moment than Hamid.
     
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  10. Daniel le Rouge2

    Apr 16, 2015
    Club:
    DC United
    He really should have done better on the first goal. I hate to damn him with faint praise, but I think the realistic assessment is “As good as.” Which is a pretty low bar at the moment.
     
  11. DCU

    DCU Member

    Feb 15, 1999
    Bay Area, CA
    This team trying to do squad rotation is a sad spectacle.
     
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  12. Daniel le Rouge2

    Apr 16, 2015
    Club:
    DC United
    I’m in the process of re-watching the first half. Glutton for punishment, I guess. The first 25 minutes are relatively even, with New York getting the edge by finishing their chance. A couple of posts and Kamara failing to stretch for the tap in. And that’s it. From there, NYC started to impose their will on the game. The second half doesn’t bear watching, let alone re-watching.

    We failed to register a shot on goal. Sean Johnson’s only save on the night came off his defender’s head.
     
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  13. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No way. That team gets overrun asking Djeffal to play there with no support.
     
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  14. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A 4-5-1 is a clogged midfield. With dynamic movement he will never be left stranded. Now if you fail to move lines as a team you get what you get.

    You could double pivot but we aren’t that good.

    3-2-4-2 with Canouse - Djeffal on the pivot. Drop Flores.
     
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  15. Daniel le Rouge2

    Apr 16, 2015
    Club:
    DC United
    Also, you’re asking Flores to play defense on the flank — something he’s shown no inclination to do. And asking Smith to play as one of your three center backs. Which I’d be willing to entertain if he had Najar’s foot speed or class on the ball. He doesn’t really.

    EDIT: ** Never mind — I misread your lineup **
     
  16. Daniel le Rouge2

    Apr 16, 2015
    Club:
    DC United
    Now that I properly understand what you’re proposing, the only real problem I have with this idea is you’re pulling Taxi and Robertha too far from goal. They’ll be spending too much time chasing in midfield.
     
  17. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I liked what I saw from Guediri (sp?) from Loudoun County. It looks like he can be a useful sub when needed. We desperately need speed in the attack. The only speed we have now is Taxi.
     
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  18. John L

    John L Member+

    Sep 20, 2003
    Alexandria, VA
    Also, it’s pretty clear Ashton has been told to play Flores all the time.
     
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  19. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    0 points.
     
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  20. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Estrada, too, when he's available. I think Flores, and Estrada are two of the worst signings, on a value paid per player-results basis.
     
  21. Freestyle2000

    Freestyle2000 Moderator

    Feb 6, 2000
    LA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Well, that sucked. #analysis

    One (of many) big worry: They got a lot of good looks on headers, more than I'm used to us giving up, it seemed.

    Under Losada, the emphasis on the high pressure meant that it made sense that we'd lose possession by a bit. Though we did have a couple of good press moments tonight, if we're NOT going to be running that high press more, then we need to get ahold of the ball. But it feels like we're really not set up for that.

    Thank god we tanked the Open Cup for that!
     
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  22. DangerMouse37

    DangerMouse37 Member+

    Jan 22, 2004
    WDC / Barra
    I was at the game. The score line reflected the play. NYC is much better but the team and coaching is infuriating.

    The lineup was completely wrongheaded. You’re at home. Play your best team early, score two and hold on for the tie. Rotate out early to preserve options for the weekend but don’t get shut out. Bringing in Taxi and Gressel down two is insane.

    Perhaps you all saw something I didn’t but Flores is soft. He isn’t effective and he is hurting the team.

    Every team has injuries and schedule issues but DCU doesn’t have a system for the big players to fit into.

    Without a system, they are just pieces. Some - Gressel, Taxi, Najar - are skilled. But the team looks more like the island of misfit toys than Real Madrid.

    Losada may have needed to go (or not) but it doesn’t change the fact that the team has been assembled and coached to get less than it could from its strange collection of parts
     
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  23. ImNumberTen

    ImNumberTen Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not sure I buy that. There just aren't necessarily better options sitting on the bench. At this point, though, it's pretty obvious that we have a DP who not only wouldn't start at most MLS clubs, but he wouldn't even make the team at half of them.

    I went to the game. Thoroughly depressing. And as cool as it was to see El Diablo there the memories of his playing days just highlighted what a sad state of affairs DCU has been in for quite a while now.
     
  24. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I really would like to see a DC United that can pass the ball, accurately & with good weight, to their own teammates, also I would like for the teammate to be able to receive the ball without it going 5-10 yards in another direction. I would like to see midfielders who can keep possession of the ball without falling down and coughing it up anyway. I would like to see teammates presenting for the ball, so we don't have to make wild down-field clearances. Should we have to make wild down-field clearances, I would like to see the clearance actually make it down field, not to our PK spot. I would like to see everyone on the team know who they're marking on set pieces, and not lose their mark! I would like to see an offense that doesn't go 5 yards into the opponents half before being cycled back to the defense, and even GK - ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE DOWN TWO GOALS WITH 10 MINUTES LEFT IN THE GAME!!!!!
    :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
     
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  25. United1

    United1 Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    We really worked that ball around in the back late in the game. Impressive.
     

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