Building A Team For The New Bernabeu - The Summer Transfer Thread

Tchouameni is missing!

 

Tchouameni isn’t Modric, and I don’t mean in terms of ability because no one is but he isn’t that stylistically.

I’ve seen Tchoumeni for a very limited amount for Monaco (3 games), he looks like a solid player but to me he is absolutely a pure DM from what I’ve seen.

I wouldn’t go for a pure DM to accompany Camavinga and Valverde; these two players’ defensive contribution should mean we can afford someone with more an attacking tendency or someone who is more natural with the ball at his feet.

Bellingham is not only a better player but a better fit alongside Camavinga and Valverde to me. Or a Xabi Alonso type DM, with a real eye for a pass.

 

Why do we need FBs when our President has given Carvajal and Lucas extensions? Both aren't going anywhere. Then we signed Vinicius Tobias on loan.

When we signed that free CB it moves our best LB from CB to LB (Alaba). So we have two LB (Alaba, Mendy) as well.

Who said we should do that again? My point was money is only an issue when the President isn't convinced of a player. When he is enamored with a player he pays any and everything.

 

For me, Fede and Cama are the two central midfielders and are not DMs. We can’t get a Modric replacement. There is no one as good as Modric in tight spaces, but those two have potential to be future greats in central midfield.

I know Youngstars is desperate for Bellingham to play in front of them.

I would prefer to have a quality modern DM like Tchouameni behind them. That way all three can interchange temporarily which makes it very difficult for opponents to stop the ball progressing through midfield.

I personally think that if we get Mbappe to play on a wing, I would prefer a DM rather than an AM so that he has licence to stay high up and focus on scoring. Nobody wants to see Mbappe helping his fullback in defence.

 

If we are trying to build a team, having Benzema, Mbappe, Vini, and Haaland is not easy and honestly would be counterintuitive.

I know Benzema is not the future but you just can’t bench or let go the future ballon d’or. So you can’t « fairly » bench any of them. This fact will force us to either change our system of playing with at least 3 midfielders and 4 defenders or make one of them play in a non natural position.

He is only 21. If he is this worth it or really a generational player he will end up coming here. In the meantime, we will be ok without him.

 

How genuine are the Endrick links? It's amazing how good he is at 15 and Madrid could have an iconic Brazilian front three with Vini and Rodrgyo

 

Weird, I didn't notice. He must've been very subtle about it.

 

What weird to me is Umar talking about Bellingham aa if he isn't a high intensity, high workrate CM with much creativity...

Umar described him as if he were James... like he's an AM that needs cover.

Smh at Umar. Smh.

 

So many of these young midfield prospects are just so well rounded, it would be an injustice to box them in as a pure DM. That's ok. A midfield of the future may not need one.

It's interesting because of the variety of midfielders we have been linked to. That is to say, while we have Fede and Camavinga locked in to be future midfield starters, we're being linked to profiles as different as Tchouameni and Bernardo Silva. What's exciting about it is that, while both of those profiles are so unique, I can imagine either of them successfully fitting in with the pair we already we have.

A midfield of the future will see them all going box to box, contributing offensively and defensively. High work rate, dynamic, strong, visionaries.

 

It’s a strong midfield what you’re describing.

I personally think a a pure DM (I understand the consensus is that Tchouameni is sound with the ball at his feet, I’ve not seen that side of him myself) is an overkill when you have both Camavinga and Valverde in front of them during the course of whole season.

If we do buy Tchouameni then I hope and I’m very very wrong and he is a big success.

 

Uh... Tchouameni is a battle between the oil clubs.

Anyways Bellingham is basically a more offensive B2B, while Tchouameni is a more defensive B2B.

 

It's less about work rate and more about positioning. If you are running around chasing players you don't have a player parked in front of our defense closing spaces. I don't think either Fede or Cama should be restricted to this role, and playing both as a double pivot behind a creative CAM is an alternative but then you need wingers to help out in defense.

 

So who is sitting for Mbappe, Vinicius and Benzema?

Just wondering how Halaand coming is overkill when Benzema is likely gone in 24 months but having four young CMs isn't.

We just got Valverde to play and had to sacrifice an attacker because we can't bench Kroos.

 

You don't need to have someone sitting above a strong CB pairing if they are receiving enough support.

Those two cab run for days and are already astute and help defense. What they don't accept in yet is creative final passes. They get some here and there but not with consistency

 

Neither Fede or Cama are DMs. They can help defensively but it’s not the same thing.

A DM would track De Bruyne into the box against City. A CM like Fede might not have that mentality, regardless of how much he tries to help in defence.

A DM would also not take the risks that Cama does often (and did in our last match). He dribbled the ball and occasionally loses it, then has to risk a yellow card trying to recover it.

I think you get more out of both of them if you put a DM behind them. And you also get more from the flanks that way. Whereas with Bellingham you get a very good player in front of them, but reduced effectiveness from the two behind.

 

So you think the only way to successfully play is with a DM?

 

Not the only way. But the best way is with at least one DM. All top teams have them, and when they take them away they suffer (see City in the CL final last year with Gundogan as DM).

Replacing Casemiro with Bellingham is risking another “putting gold plating on the Bentley and taking out the engine” situation.

 

Our strongest lineup currently doesn't use Casemiro. It uses Modric in front of Camavinga and Valverde.

So, I'm still wondering why Bellingham can't play that role with those two B2B sharing the workload in the middle?

 

Im not sure about that. I like that midfield a lot and want to see it more, but Casemiro brings a lot, especially his experience. Camavinga has been fantastic off the bench too and I prefer that as an option.